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MTK 01-01-2007 03:57 AM

Problems at the core
 
Great read and some interesting insight on Lloyd. By reading this you really have to believe he's not coming back.

[B][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/31/AR2006123101079_5.html]Problems at the Core - washingtonpost.com[/url][/B]

That Guy 01-01-2007 05:06 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
pretty damning. we can't afford to pay 8$mill to release lloyd and 8$mill to release archuleta though :/.

djnemo65 01-01-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
at this point I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather keep Archuletta. Lloyd is a cancer in the clubhouse, whereas Archuletta is more like Chicken Pox or something.

JoeRedskin 01-01-2007 08:27 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
<Sigh> I hope there is SOME good news at the end of this tunnel, but, other than Campbell, I don't know what it could be.

It's going to be a long off-season.

dmek25 01-01-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
[quote=That Guy;265707]pretty damning. we can't afford to pay 8$mill to release Lloyd and 8$mill to release archuleta though :/.[/quote]
welcome back. and i think Lloyd can make some plays if given the opportunity. A.A. just plain stinks

GoSkins! 01-01-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
I think that they have no choice but to give Llyod 1 more year. They cut AA this year and Llyod next year if he continues being an idiot.

The good news is that the defense has no where to go but up and we might not have enough money to sign to many free agents. Sign one or two defensive starters, draft one, and then try to find some low cost, quality depth.

In Gibbs defense, it looks lke the skins may have done a good job finding low cost, quality depth on the o-line. The times we did see subs at center and tackle, they did fine.

12thMan 01-01-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
It's really unfortunate the way Lloyd responded to Saunders....talk to the quarterback!? What a bitch, seriously! His ass needs to go, no ifs ands or buts about it.

If Gibbs wants to continue to defend his decision making process, then so be it. But if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Twilbert07 01-01-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
Wow. Last year's moves not only hurt this season, they hurt next season because of the draft picks we gave up. I hope we keep our No. 1 pick this year - which will be the 6th overall.

12thMan 01-01-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
[quote=Twilbert07;265736]Wow. Last year's moves not only hurt this season, they hurt next season because of the draft picks we gave up. I hope we keep our No. 1 pick this year - which will be the 6th overall.[/quote]


Seriously, Twilbert...and I really hate to be so cynical, what are the chances of this first round pick, whomever his is, making an impact on the team?

Chances are if he's a defensive player, GW will string him along throughout the season until the sixth or seventh game and say he's learning the system. Just business as usual with the Redskins.

SmootSmack 01-01-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
Good read. To the Duckett issue though, it's hard to argue with Gibbs' concern about Betts staying healthy and Rock holding on to the ball.. That said though, I think he may have forgotten to consider Sellers.

Pocket$ $traight 01-01-2007 11:56 AM

Re: Problems at the core
 
[quote=12thMan;265739]Seriously, Twilbert...and I really hate to be so cynical, what are the chances of this first round pick, whomever his is, making an impact on the team?

Chances are if he's a defensive player, GW will string him along throughout the season until the sixth or seventh game and say he's learning the system. Just business as usual with the Redskins.[/quote]

They do pretty well with the top picks (because these are usually no brainers).

Rogers and Taylor played pretty early for Williams. I am guessing that they pick the best defensive lineman available and if the player struggles to pick up the defense for whatever reason you can still turn them loose on passing downs.

This defense was a joke. They will find a spot for a #5 pick.

12thMan 01-01-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Problems at the core
 
Here's another interesting comparison between the TE we signed and the one we let go.

Christian Fauria 2 catches for 17 yds. 8.1 yd avg. 0 tds.

Robert Royal 23 catches for 233 yds. 10.1 yd. avg. 3 tds.

12thMan 01-01-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Problems at the core
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;265750]They do pretty well with the top picks (because these are usually no brainers).

Rogers and Taylor played pretty early for Williams. I am guessing that they pick the best defensive lineman available and if the player struggles to pick up the defense for whatever reason you can still turn them loose on passing downs.

This defense was a joke. They will find a spot for a #5 pick.[/quote]

Like I said, I was being a bit cynical and bitter about things. I hope we can get our hands on DE from Michigan.

Keep your eye on him during the Rose Bowl.

redsk1 01-01-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Problems at the core
 
Ouch. This might not be a quick fix here guys. Get ready though this will be an interesting offseason.

We've all said it before, the FO does things that doesn't exactly seem "fair" to players of the skins. It's unfortunate, but hopefully Gibbs and the FO have learned a little from our mistakes.

Longtimefan 01-01-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Problems at the core
 
I think the article further illustrates just how important is is for us to have a skilled personnel manager, GM (if you will) to evaluate, and choose players. A lengthly article, and throughtout I get the feeling that's the most important point trying to be made.


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