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Mattyk 01-25-2007 11:11 AM

Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
I love stuff like this

[url=http://blogs.chron.com/bluebayou/2007/01/cheney_treated_like_others_ang.html]Blue Bayou: Cheney treated like others, angry about it[/url]

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
While you and I share very similar political views Matty, I was with Senor Dick on this one. I think it was just a shitty question to be asking someone.

firstdown 01-25-2007 11:29 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[quote=Mattyk72;272378]I love stuff like this

[URL="http://blogs.chron.com/bluebayou/2007/01/cheney_treated_like_others_ang.html"]Blue Bayou: Cheney treated like others, angry about it[/URL][/quote]As the administrator and the doing away with the forum for political chat why would you start this thread?

Mattyk 01-25-2007 11:33 AM

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I think we've shown recently we can have political discussion without it getting too hairy. I'd like to work that back into the forums if we can. We'll keep a close eye on it.

Mattyk 01-25-2007 11:35 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;272379]While you and I share very similar political views Matty, I was with Senor Dick on this one. I think it was just a shitty question to be asking someone.[/quote]

Yeah maybe the question was a bit harsh, but it's just funny to see someone like him get called out. I don't have much pity for the guy myself.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2007 11:35 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
Yeah, if we could have a multi-page discussion on religion without getting bent out of shape, we can do this.

While I do agree with the article that it's kind of a "pot calling the kettle black" kind of thing, you'd think it would put Cheney in a weird spot having to vote with his party lines while also having a daughter that's a homosexual.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2007 11:35 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[quote=Mattyk72;272386]Yeah maybe the question was a bit harsh, but it's just funny to see someone like him get called out. I don't have much pity for the guy myself.[/quote]

Right. I mean he DID shoot someone in the face. While I didn't gain any respect for Cheney, I lost a little for Wolf.

Mattyk 01-25-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;272387]While I do agree with the article that it's kind of a "pot calling the kettle black" kind of thing, you'd think it would put Cheney in a weird spot having to vote with his party lines while also having a daughter that's a homosexual.[/quote]

Exactly.

It's all good until it hits these guys personally.

Hypocrites.

firstdown 01-25-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;272387]Yeah, if we could have a multi-page discussion on religion without getting bent out of shape, we can do this.

While I do agree with the article that it's kind of a "pot calling the kettle black" kind of thing, you'd think it would put Cheney in a weird spot having to vote with his party lines while also having a daughter that's a homosexual.[/quote]
He did not vote for any of this and has taken a back seat to this issue. If you read the whole article he said that its goes with the job and he can handle the questions he just does not think they are appropriate.

SmootSmack 01-25-2007 11:42 AM

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As long as we don't sling baseless comments and insults at each other (like actual politicians) this might work. It will probably get really heated again come election time so we need to be very cautious.

I will say this though, it's a lot better without Shane involved. Sorry Shane

cpayne5 01-25-2007 11:42 AM

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Blitzer knew exactly what was going to happen. There is a long history between him and the Cheney's. He created a story by pushing the right buttons.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
I know he didn't vote. I'm just saying that he's of course encouraged to vote along party lines (like any politician).

I did read the whole thing and while speculation of family life goes with the job, if it's not relevant, people really have no right asking questions like that. One of the comments below phrased it a LITTLE better, but still, if someone is going to spend time interviewing someone, you'd might want to pick a more poignant question.

cpayne5 01-25-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
Here's the video. The topic at hand arises at 2:25.
[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=iaiwtbsyGuw]YouTube - Cheney Spars with Blitzer Over Criticism of Iraq,[/url]

Cheney handled the situation, very well IMO. He didn't blow his top like some would lead you to believe.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-25-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
This is a little off topic, but I don't think the government has any right to be involved in marriages ... as if people need the government's permission to get married. :doh: Wasn't the separation of church and state a fundamental reason for the establishment of America? Just another case of the government abusing it's power.

FRPLG 01-25-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Cheney treated like others, angry about it
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;272391]As long as we don't sling baseless comments and insults at each other (like actual politicians) this might work. It will probably get really heated again come election time so we need to be very cautious.

I will say this though, it's a lot better without Shane involved. Sorry Shane[/QUOTE]

I agree. I think that the key to having decent discussions is to stringently not allow those who will dominate the discussion and cause serious rancor. Shane simply dominated discussions and really brought them to the next level in terms of rancor. If we can not take these discussion too seriously and not let them really change our opionions of each other I think they can be good. Of course of politicians could do the same it would be great.

For example, I can basically see that Matty and I have pretty much polar views on politics but I still think he does a great job on the site and seems like a good guy. Just because we disagree politically doesn't mean I think he is dumb or dishonest or anything. In fact I would say based on a lot of history that he is very honest and comes off intelligent.

I am guessing unfortunately that their will be some who cannot see a distinction when disagreeing with someone else. We need to watch out for these types.


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