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Beemnseven 02-07-2007 01:13 PM

Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Let's fire things up, shall we?

Apparently unaware that the Redskins had no 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round draft choices in a conversation with Mel Kiper on Colin Cowherd's radio show today, Colin proceeded on a 4 minute rant ripping the Skins front office as "poorly run", and "Raider-esque" while noting that smart use of the draft is vital for success in today's NFL.

"The Cowboys, Eagles and Giants have to be chuckling at the Redskins"

"Al Davis called; he's embarrassed for the Redskins".

"The Eagles, Patriots and Colts are the model of success by building through the draft -- the Redskins are the opposite! They're outdated; they're a rotary phone."

"PATHETIC. BRUTAL. You can't run a business that way!"

"That's an old team with a locker room full of overpriced free agents, and no 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks?? Those are starter quality players on successful teams."

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The problem is, Cowherd was spot-on.

Hog1 02-07-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
The only way Cowherd is spot on about anything is luck. While I generally find him entertaining, he is incredibly biased and knows jack shit about the NFL, or College for that matter. That's why he continually picks the losing team in most of big games. By the way...........he's not correct. Regarding football knowledge, he couldn't hit his own ass with both hands. Have a nice day

12thMan 02-07-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Like I've said in a couple of threads, we did finish the season 12 starters that were drafted as Redskins. How many teams can lay hold to that claim?

Not many.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-07-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;275481]Like I've said in a couple of threads, we did finish the season 12 starters that were drafted as Redskins. How many teams can lay hold to that claim?

Not many.[/QUOTE]

What 12? I count Cooley, Jansen, Samuels, Dockery, Betts, Campbell, Golston, McIntosh, Rogers, and Taylor (10). There was an article last offseason about our draft record (and how many became starters) as compared with other NFC East teams and we were in dead last.

Defensewins 02-07-2007 01:43 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;275481]Like I've said in a couple of threads, we did finish the season 12 starters that were drafted as Redskins. How many teams can lay hold to that claim?

Not many.[/QUOTE]


Is that supposed to be good or bad? I don't get your point?

The only measure that matters is win/loss. I don't care if we get our players from the waiver wire. Just win baby.

#56fanatic 02-07-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Cowherd is on ESPN radio for some reason, and I doubt it is just to take space. He brings valid points to the table. We do crap on the draft, some if not most of the FA signings have been questionable. Colts, Eagles, New England, who might I remind you, are in the playoffs almost every single year, do build their teams through the draft. The develop the chemistry of playing with the same person for a number of years. I am glad to see our O line will have that, but the rest of the team doesn't. There is always a new face or new number at some key position every year. That may change this year, but doubt it. There are reasons some of the teams are consistantly good, and a reason we have been consistantly bad. And going to the playoffs once in 7 years doesn't mean a thing. Going 3 or 4 years in a row means something. Some people have got to take off those burgandy shades and look around. Until we get some football people in charge of football decisions, this is what we will deal with. We may get lucky and make the playoffs, but in two years, we will be back at square one. Getting the NEW players to play well with others. If we would have stood pat after last season, we could have competed with anyone. that goes for adding players, AND coaches. You go 10-6, figure out who you are, then remake everything? that makes no sense.

12thMan 02-07-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;275482]What 12? I count Cooley, Jansen, Samuels, Dockery, Betts, Campbell, Golston, McIntosh, Rogers, and Taylor (10). There was an article last offseason about our draft record (and how many became starters) as compared with other NFC East teams and we were in dead last.[/quote]


I threw Sellers and Marshall in there too. :)

12thMan 02-07-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[quote=Defensewins;275483]Is that supposed to be good or bad? I don't get your point?

The only measure that matters is win/loss. I don't care if we get our players from the waiver wire. Just win baby.[/quote]

My only point is that we have more draftees starting and playing than most in the media would lead to believe.

Beemnseven 02-07-2007 01:54 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;275481]Like I've said in a couple of threads, we did finish the season 12 starters that were drafted as Redskins. How many teams can lay hold to that claim?

Not many.[/QUOTE]

Well, like someone else said, what good are those starters when they finish 5-11?

And that's the fickle we're in -- either we have a sparse draft selection, or we tend to screw up the draft picks we do have. People will always point to Chris Cooley. He's a good player, might even be a great player someday. Problem is, he was a 2 for 1 deal. Losing a 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh? As far as we know, that wasn't a smart deal. If he suddenly turns it around and becomes the next Antonio Pierce, fine. But can we say with any certainty that's going to happen?

Ask yourself this: Are we headed in the right direction? Do you believe our strategy for acquiring players has worked?

Defensewins 02-07-2007 01:57 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic;275484]Cowherd is on ESPN radio for some reason, and I doubt it is just to take space. He brings valid points to the table. We do crap on the draft, some if not most of the FA signings have been questionable. Colts, Eagles, New England, who might I remind you, are in the playoffs almost every single year, do build their teams through the draft. The develop the chemistry of playing with the same person for a number of years. I am glad to see our O line will have that, but the rest of the team doesn't. There is always a new face or new number at some key position every year. That may change this year, but doubt it. There are reasons some of the teams are consistantly good, and a reason we have been consistantly bad. And going to the playoffs once in 7 years doesn't mean a thing. Going 3 or 4 years in a row means something. Some people have got to take off those burgandy shades and look around. Until we get some football people in charge of football decisions, this is what we will deal with. ....[/QUOTE]

Amen Brother!
I'm also tired of the renegotiating contracts game. I do not like this game of hide and seek with the cap. We were a below .500 team in 2006 and we are currently right at or over the salary cap. Not very good player or salary management skills.
Some are so in awe over Snyder and his cap skills. I frankly think it is not a very good example how to run a successful NFL team. The proof was on the field in 2006.

12thMan 02-07-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
[quote=Beemnseven;275488]Well, like someone else said, what good are those starters when they finish 5-11?

And that's the fickle we're in -- either we have a sparse draft selection, or we tend to screw up the draft picks we do have. People will always point to Chris Cooley. He's a good player, might even be a great player someday. Problem is, he was a 2 for 1 deal. Losing a 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh? As far as we know, that wasn't a smart deal. If he suddenly turns it around and becomes the next Antonio Pierce, fine. But can we say with any certainty that's going to happen?

Ask yourself this: Are we headed in the right direction? Do you believe our strategy for acquiring players has worked?[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything being said here.

My only is, the media tends to strike a tone that the Redskins have all FA starting on both sides of the ball.

The focus tends to be on that particular organizational failure, which is a legitimate one, but you rarely hear about the homegrown talent we do have.

MTK 02-07-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Same old, same old.

Sorry but for anyone who is sick of this current front office stategy the only thing I can recommend is to stop following the team, because with so little draft picks this year how else do you think they are going to approach this offseason? Get ready for more of the same.

12thMan 02-07-2007 02:04 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Exactly. If we haven't moved on at this point, we're in for a rude awakening this year.

ArtMonkDrillz 02-07-2007 02:06 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Are teams like the Browns, Cardinals, Texans, and Lions built mainly through free agency or the draft?
He's right about the teams that he sited: they are consistantly good and they do consistantly build their teams through the draft rather than free agency; but couldn't this be because they have a good front office and coaches? There are plenty of teams out there that try to build themselves up the "right way" that still blow year in and year out.

MTK 02-07-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe
 
Don't get me wrong I'm not backing the current front office philosophy, but it is what it is.

I can probably tell you what Gibbs and co. are thinking.

They're thinking look what happened in 2005... they've shown they can win and get to the playoffs with this current setup and personnel strategy. I'm sure they will look at last year and learn some valuable lessons, and they will look to replicate the same success they had from bringing in guys like Moss, Springs, Griffin, Washington, etc., rather than bombs like Arch and Lloyd.


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