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Dirtbag59 02-09-2007 04:01 PM

1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
I was on Rivals100.com the other day looking at the profiles of this years upcoming first round picks and I noticed something. Most of the prospects were 3 or 4 star recruits coming out of high school. Hell Alex Smith (the QB) was a two star prospect, Jeff Samarzda was a three star prospect (yes I know hes going to the Cubs). Anyway heres some examples of the rivals100.com ratings of this years blue chip prospects (for the Draft) when they were seniors in high school.

2007 NFL Draft
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8697"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Brady Quinn[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]QB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10996"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Joe Thomas[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] OL [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=11077"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Leon Hall[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=17993"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Alan Branch[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] OL [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG] (DT for Michigan)
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=19920"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Marshawn Lynch[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] RB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=16967"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Charles Johnson[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1056"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Quentin Moses[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=4498"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Gaines Adams[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]TE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
(Yes, Gaines Adams was a TE coming out of HS)
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=14848"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Adrian Peterson[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] RB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=20160"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Theodore Ginn, Jr[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9075"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Tony Gonzalez[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=207"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Troy Smith[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]QB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1788"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Levi Brown[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DT [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG] (OT from Penn State)
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18842"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Jamaal Anderson[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]WR [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
(The DE out of Arkansas that will be a top 10 pick this year)
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7844"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]JaMarcus Russell[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]QB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18332"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Calvin Johnson[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]WR [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18108"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Dwayne Jarrett[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]ATH [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7221"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]LaRon Landry[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]ATH [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9872"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Reggie Nelson[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=9192"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Jarvis Moss[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=18622"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Lawrence Timmons[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] LB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=15728"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Amobi Okoye[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]OL [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10876"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]DeMarcus Tyler[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DT [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]




Other Picks from previous drafts
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=14667"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Odell Thurman[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]LB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG] [SIZE=1]6-1[/SIZE]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=10190"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Vernon Davis[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]TE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8518"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Donte Whitner[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=421"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Bobby Carpenter[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]LB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=371"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Santonio Holmes[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] WR [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=438"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]A.J. Hawk[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]LB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=2604"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Tamba Hali[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8514"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Reggie Bush[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]RB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1579"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Darnell Bing[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DB [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=2708"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Winston Justice[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] OL [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=733"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Mike Williams[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]WR [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=1815"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]D'Brickashaw Ferguson[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] OL [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=815"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Kedric Golston[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DT [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=6086"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Manny Lawson[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=7347"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]John McCargo[/COLOR][/B][/URL][SIZE=1] DT [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]
[URL="http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=8538"][B][COLOR=#0a4ea3]Mario Williams[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [SIZE=1]DE [/SIZE][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif[/IMG]

dall-assblows 02-09-2007 04:04 PM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
thats interesting. almost seems to me that the lower stars worked alot harder than the 5 star players.

That Guy 02-09-2007 05:13 PM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
good players tend to become good players... surprise! still, a lot of 4 star HS players end up going low in the draft too.

dmek25 02-09-2007 07:45 PM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
im not sure of the point beind this thread. its saying that the good high school players were also good college players

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-09-2007 07:47 PM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
look @ okeye with 2 stars...didnt he just come from highschool? 18-19 or something?

Dirtbag59 02-10-2007 02:45 AM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
[quote=dmek25;276307]im not sure of the point beind this thread. its saying that the good high school players were also good college players[/quote]

My point is that this past signing day I was watching everyone make a big deal about all these 5-Star recurits when in reality the guys that are going to be making an impact at the next level are the guys that are in the four star range. I mean think about it, Miami QB Kyle Wright was the #1 prospect 5 years ago. This year he'll be lucky to be drafted. Mario Williams was rated the 90th best prospect overall in his senior class. This year only two prospects that will go in the top ten picks of the draft this year were 5 star recruits coming out of high school.

GTripp0012 02-10-2007 03:25 AM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;276358]My point is that this past signing day I was watching everyone make a big deal about all these 5-Star recurits when in reality the guys that are going to be making an impact at the next level are the guys that are in the four star range. I mean think about it, Miami QB Kyle Wright was the #1 prospect 5 years ago. This year he'll be lucky to be drafted. Mario Williams was rated the 90th best prospect overall in his senior class. This year only two prospects that will go in the top ten picks of the draft this year were 5 star recruits coming out of high school.[/quote]Well theres also a very select few 5 star prospects, and most of them do end up being great college players. Theres a bunch more 4 star guys, and thats why they dominate the first round.

Scouting is an inexact science though. Not all 5 star prospects are going to have 5 star talent and every once in awhile, 3 star prosects will be superstars. Sometimes, high school coaches cant find the position where a guy is best at. Thus he gets ranked low, changes his position and becomes a stud at the college level.

Great research though.

That Guy 02-10-2007 05:55 PM

Re: 1st Round Picks tend to be 4 Star Recruits Coming out of High School
 
there's only about 500000000 times more 4 star prospects. you name kyle wright, but what about reggie bush? ted ginn? adrian peterson? a lot of the 5 stars end up alright too.


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