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MTK 02-10-2007 12:43 PM

Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[IMG]http://espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nfl/sml/trans/was.gif[/IMG] [B][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"]Washington Redskins[/URL][/B]
[B]Cap room:[/B] $4.3 million
Don't expect the Redskins to go crazy in free agency. They have 11 free agents, but only LB [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4756"]Warrick Holdman[/URL] is a starter. There could be significant roster changes, though. Gibbs could wipe out quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2485"]Mark Brunell[/URL], wide receiver [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4172"]David Patten[/URL], safety [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2225"]Troy Vincent[/URL], kicker [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4126"]John Hall[/URL], wide receiver [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6460"]Brandon Lloyd[/URL] and safety [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5467"]Adam Archuleta[/URL]. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5904"]T.J. Duckett[/URL] will leave in free agency. The Redskins figure to make major improvements along the defensive front seven, which became less athletic last season. The key to the team's playoff chances is how [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7201"]Jason Campbell[/URL] develops at quarterback.

Read more: [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756]ESPN.com - NFL - Clayton: Who will be the teams to beat in 2007?[/url]

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
I haven't run the numbers but how can they do all of that? Archuleta would be a 9 million dollar hit by himself.

dmek25 02-10-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
i think a.a. gets one more season. and i agree with the rest of it

skinsfan69 02-10-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=Mattyk72;276403][IMG]http://espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nfl/sml/trans/was.gif[/IMG] [B][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"]Washington Redskins[/URL][/B]
[B]Cap room:[/B] $4.3 million
Don't expect the Redskins to go crazy in free agency. They have 11 free agents, but only LB [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4756"]Warrick Holdman[/URL] is a starter. There could be significant roster changes, though. Gibbs could wipe out quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2485"]Mark Brunell[/URL], wide receiver [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4172"]David Patten[/URL], safety [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2225"]Troy Vincent[/URL], kicker [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4126"]John Hall[/URL], wide receiver [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6460"]Brandon Lloyd[/URL] and safety [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5467"]Adam Archuleta[/URL]. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5904"]T.J. Duckett[/URL] will leave in free agency. The Redskins figure to make major improvements along the defensive front seven, which became less athletic last season. The key to the team's playoff chances is how [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7201"]Jason Campbell[/URL] develops at quarterback.

Read more: [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756"]ESPN.com - NFL - Clayton: Who will be the teams to beat in [/URL]
2007?[/quote]


I would get rid of every player listed above ( except JC ) and add in Daniels and Wynn. Let all of them go and start a three year rebuilding plan. Basically start over. Tenn, Packers and Bills are all way under the cap, they all had beter records than us and I would say all three are somewhat rebuilding. They all have better looking futures than the Skins. The mistakes of the past can not be fixed in one year.

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 01:54 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=skinsfan69;276416]I would get rid of every player listed above ( except JC ) and add in Daniels and Wynn. Let all of them go and start a three year rebuilding plan. Basically start over. Tenn, Packers and Bills are all way under the cap, they all had beter records than us and I would say all three are somewhat rebuilding. They all have better looking futures than the Skins. The mistakes of the past can not be fixed in one year.[/quote]

I don't think it is a bad idea but I don't think Joe will stick around for that. That is why I don't think they will make all of those moves. I believe they will fill the obvious holes and purge salary when Joe is gone. He was brought here to coach them in a big game not to rebuild.

Big C 02-10-2007 01:59 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;276416]I would get rid of every player listed above ( except JC ) and add in Daniels and Wynn. [/QUOTE]

daniels should keep starting, he is a key player for us in the locker room and ont he field. wynn should only get cut if he doesnt take a paycut

Beemnseven 02-10-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
Good grief. The TJ Duckett trade looks uglier everytime I hear about it. Lose a third round draft choice for a guy who had 30-something carries and was inactive half the year? And his departure via free agency is a virtual certainty?

Tell me again why we can't shop Ladell Betts for picks?

Tell me again why this front office shouldn't dress up like clowns at Redskin Park?

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=Beemnseven;276422]Good grief. The TJ Duckett trade looks uglier everytime I hear about it. Lose a third round draft choice for a guy who had 30-something carries and was inactive half the year? And his departure via free agency is a virtual certainty?

Tell me again why we can't shop Ladell Betts for picks?

Tell me again why this front office shouldn't dress up like clowns at Redskin Park?[/quote]


You are spot on, Beem. That Ducket move may be worse than the Archuleta signing.

Trading Betts for picks is way too saavy for our front office...

The best part about it is that the pay these jokers so much money that they are un-tradeable once they bust.

Big C 02-10-2007 02:12 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
you guys seriously want to trade betts? lol wow.

Terry 02-10-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[QUOTE]Don't expect the Redskins to go crazy in free agency....There could be significant roster changes, though....The Redskins figure to make major improvements along the defensive front seven.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make any sense. We're not gonna go crazy in free agency, we only have one pick in the first 4 rounds of the draft, yet we figure to improve or front 7 (I count only 2 first tier starters in the group).

How does he think we're gonna pull that off?

Beemnseven 02-10-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[QUOTE=Big C;276425]you guys seriously want to trade betts? lol wow.[/QUOTE]

OK, we need two linebackers, a strong safety, another cornerback, a defensive tackle, and it'd also be nice to have someone opposite Andre Carter at defensive end so Philip Daniels can stay where he belongs -- on the sideline (since he's such a great "leader") and serve only in rotations.

Then, we could use some depth along the O-line.

All of this while we have Portis, Betts, a very capable third back in Rock Cartwright -- on a team with an offensive coordinator who loves throwing the ball.

So tell me why the idea of trading Ladell Betts for some picks is such a crazy idea?

hooskins 02-10-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
As much as I respect Clayton's opinion, I really do not feel we are gonna ax AA and we will probably make a big free agency move on the defensive side, such as Clements...

skinsfan69 02-10-2007 03:02 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=Big C;276420]daniels should keep starting, he is a key player for us in the locker room and ont he field. wynn should only get cut if he doesnt take a paycut[/quote]

Daniels is a good locker room guy but his production does not merit him staying around. Does he ever put any pressure on the QB?

skinsfan69 02-10-2007 03:08 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;276418]I don't think it is a bad idea but I don't think Joe will stick around for that. That is why I don't think they will make all of those moves. I believe they will fill the obvious holes and purge salary when Joe is gone. He was brought here to coach them in a big game not to rebuild.[/quote]

Well then perhaps he should retire because we are not going to be a Super Bowl contending team next year. Little cap room/ draft picks coming off a 5-11 year sounds like 2-3 year rebuilding plan to me. At least that would be the smart thing to do.

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Clayton on the Redskins' offseason plans
 
[quote=skinsfan69;276434]Well then perhaps he should retire because we are not going to be a Super Bowl contending team next year. Little cap room/ draft picks coming off a 5-11 year sounds like 2-3 year rebuilding plan to me. At least that would be the smart thing to do.[/quote]

If they turn the defense around, they could be. And Williams did exactly that in '04.

When do the Redskins ever participate in the "smart thing to do"?

One good thing about parity, you are never that far away (unless you are Houston, Oakland or Detroit).


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