Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

I have a question. If the Redskins trade down to say the 10 or 11th pick what can we get in return? I'm sure one fo these defensive players we like will be there around that pick.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=dmek25;280401]wasnt dave butz 300lbs? it seemed like he played forever[/quote]
[B]Dave Butz [/B]

David Roy Butz
[B]Position:[/B] DE/DT
[B]Height:[/B] 6' 7'' [B]Weight:[/B] 295
[B]Born:[/B] [URL="http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerbdays.htm?mth=6&dy=23"][COLOR=#0000ff]6/23/1950[/COLOR][/URL], in Lafayette, AL, USA
[B]High School:[/B] Maine South (Park Ridge, IL)
[B]College: [/B][URL="http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Purdue"][COLOR=#0000ff]Purdue[/COLOR][/URL]

Played 1973-1988

Good memory Dmec

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;280427]I remember this year's Super Bowl champs having a 245 lb guy (Mathis) on one end and a 268 lb guy (Freeney) on the other. That seemed to work out. Our 265 lb guy (Carter) and 290 lb guy (Daniels) didn't seem to benefit from the extra weight.

Sometimes looking at just the numbers isn't the best way to analyze effectiveness. Ask yourself if Greg Williams' scheme better utilizes quick, pass-rushing Ends or bigger, run-stopping Ends?

I don't know the answer to that, by the way.

[SIZE=1][I]Weight info provided by NFL.com. Not responsible for inaccuracies obtained from source.[/I][/SIZE][/quote]

Yes the Colts did get it done with some small ends. Heck the whole defense was small. And they had some serious problems stopping the run. But they somehow got it done when it mattered most. Sometimes it works.

However I don't think it will work here. Freeney and Mathis are better players than anyone we currently have at end. Those guys can get after the QB and we don't have anyone who can rush the passer on the level they do it at. Plus when Sanders came back it was like the Colts defense started playing at a much higher level.

But if our FO think Adams is the best player at the 6th pick then take him. We have to draft the best player and not draft for need.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=Hog1;280446][B]Dave Butz [/B]

David Roy Butz
[B]Position:[/B] DE/DT
[B]Height:[/B] 6' 7'' [B]Weight:[/B] 295
[B]Born:[/B] [URL="http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerbdays.htm?mth=6&dy=23"][COLOR=#0000ff]6/23/1950[/COLOR][/URL], in Lafayette, AL, USA
[B]High School:[/B] Maine South (Park Ridge, IL)
[B]College: [/B][URL="http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Purdue"][COLOR=#0000ff]Purdue[/COLOR][/URL]

Played 1973-1988

Good memory Dmec[/quote]Maine South HS is where Hilary Clinton went.

*shudders*

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

Trading down requires a partner. To only trade down 4-5 picks I think we'd have to have someone extraordinary there. Someone like Calvin Johnson.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[QUOTE=Daseal;280465]Trading down requires a partner. To only trade down 4-5 picks I think we'd have to have someone extraordinary there. Someone like Calvin Johnson.[/QUOTE]

Quinn could fall there. That could be a chip for them

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

Very true.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;280427]I remember this year's Super Bowl champs having a 245 lb guy (Mathis) on one end and a 268 lb guy (Freeney) on the other. That seemed to work out. Our 265 lb guy (Carter) and 290 lb guy (Daniels) didn't seem to benefit from the extra weight. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, the Colts had a small front four and, except for the playoffs, got run on all season long.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=GTripp0012;280457]Maine South HS is where Hilary Clinton went.

*shudders*[/quote]

Damn, GT...who would know that little factoid? You're scary, dude:)

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[QUOTE=12thMan;280542]Damn, GT...who would know that little factoid? You're scary, dude:)[/QUOTE]My guess is that Maine South is pretty close to where GTripp is from.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=GTripp0012;280457]Maine South HS is where Hilary Clinton went.

*shudders*[/quote]

I'm gonna' pretend like I did not hear that!

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;280546]My guess is that Maine South is pretty close to where GTripp is from.[/quote]This is correct.

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;280579]This is correct.[/QUOTE]
That's how I roll

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[quote=GiantsSuck703;280264]What have you seen from Okoye or Anderson to make you take them before Adams?[/quote]

Okoye would be a stretch at 6 overall. I'd love to have him, but only if we trade down to the early teens range of the draft. Another guy who I'm watching have a GREAT combine right now is Jarvis Moss out of Florida. Again, not worthy of the 6th pick, but another 1st rd talent at D-line. Gaines Adams BTW turned in the fastest times of all D-lineman at the combine today. If we don't trade that pick and he's available, he's a no brainer to me. So blazing fast around the corner, and coaches/GM's told him that he only needs to add 10-12lbs. That can be done in a month. Anderson worries me. He's in the 290-300lb range, and his speed off the corner has been questioned. And he decided not to work out this weekend at the combine despite standing to gain a ton by a solid performance. I do like Alan Branch. He wouldn't be a stretch for the 6th pick either. He's pure run stuffer at 6-6 330, and we are terrible against the run...

Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN
 

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;280438]I have a question. If the Redskins trade down to say the 10 or 11th pick what can we get in return? I'm sure one fo these defensive players we like will be there around that pick.[/QUOTE]

Think San Fran has the 11th pick and they'd want D so they may want to move to 6th spot. If they go DE then Branch might be available at 11th for GW and get another pick too boot.