PFT Rumor: Redskins to Fire Personnel Department After Draft
 

[url]http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm[/url]

[B]'SKINS TO CLEAN HOUSE AFTER THE DRAFT?[/B]

There's talk in league circles that the Washington Redskins will clean out the personnel department following the 2007 draft.

It's presently unclear whether V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato would be caught up in the rumored purge. Cerrato was fired by the team during the failed Marty Schottenheimer experiment, and re-hired after Marty was Schott-canned.

Per the 2006 NFL Record & Fact Book, the front office also includes director of pro personnel Louis Riddick, director of college scouting Scott Campbell, pro scouts Terry Ray and Donnie Warren, college scouts Mike Faulkiner, Tim Gribble, Shemy Schembechler, and Jim Zeches, national scouts Russ Bolinger and Joel Patten, and director of football administrtion Eric Schaffer.

[I]I wonder who people will scapegoat after Vinny is gone?[/I]

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good

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;281677]good[/QUOTE]

If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.

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No need for scouts if we don't have draft picks...

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;281678]If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.[/QUOTE]

Here here.

The only way this makes sense is if we start moving toward a more long term route of using the draft. Otherwise why fire a bunch of guys who basically don't do much anyways. Relative to the amount of players they bring in that is. I would imagine FA is mainly handled by position coaches and coordinators.

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This would be completely idiotic.

Wouldn't you fire them before the draft and let someone competent pick the players that you are going to make or break your upcoming season!?!?!?!?!?

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It is hard to establish a scouting dept. It takes literally a year to do it right. They have institutional knowledge and resources that a new group can't just know or have and will need a while to get. To even have a chance at doing this they would have needed to fire everyone the day after the season and hire a new one immediately to be ready for the draft. They didn't and I suspect it was because they came to this decision(if they really did) over a period of time. Same thing happened last year with the Texans keeping Casserely to run the draft and then canning him right after.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;281678]If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.[/quote]


amen

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Pro Football Talk is an embarrasment to informational websites. I think they make half of their stuff up.

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[B]'SKINS TO CLEAN HOUSE AFTER THE DRAFT?[/B]

There's talk in league circles that the Washington Redskins will clean out the personnel department following the 2007 draft.

It's presently unclear whether V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato would be caught up in the rumored purge. Cerrato was fired by the team during the failed Marty Schottenheimer experiment, and re-hired after Marty was Schott-canned.

Per the 2006 NFL Record & Fact Book, the front office also includes director of pro personnel Louis Riddick, director of college scouting Scott Campbell, pro scouts Terry Ray and Donnie Warren, college scouts Mike Faulkiner, Tim Gribble, Shemy Schembechler, and Jim Zeches, national scouts Russ Bolinger and Joel Patten, and director of football administrtion Eric Schaffer.

[I]I wonder who people will scapegoat after Vinny is gone?[/I][/QUOTE]

Well, Well, Well. Apparently PFT stands for "Pilfering From TAFKAS" Let's go back in time a few weeks:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/257130-post28.html[/url]

"Yes it's Gibbs' job as President to know what's happening as well as Ceratto's (as whatever his title is), but he's certainly getting a lot of his info on players (strengths, weaknesses, etc.) from the scouting department. [B]So, do we have the wrong scouts in place? [/B]
Isn't Don Warren a scout?"

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/259603-post16.html[/url]

"I really think [B]the issue is more with scouting[/B] than whether or not we have someone who is a "general manager"

Re: PFT Rumor: Redskins to Fire Personnel Department After Draft
 

Not so sure I'm buying this one? They could certainly tiddy up shop, but clean the house.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;281698]Not so sure I'm buying this one? They could certainly tiddy up shop, but clean the house.

I'll believe it when I see it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I think some tidying up will happen. If I remember right, I think I heard that they're high on Campbell, not so much on Riddick. Or vice versa, I forget

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Well as long as they keep Eric Schaffer i'm good. I'm gonna be happy if this is the signal of move towards building through the draft.

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make schaffer gm fire cerrato and let eric put in his own staff

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I think Riddich may go. He's in charge of pro scouting which means that A.A, Lloyd, Carter, Fauria etc. are on him.

Vinny is probably safe because a) he is a Snyder's puppet meaning any criticism of him or his role is an attack on the boss and b) his firing would lead to long discussions about who's in charge of what and is he going to be replaced.

What's odd is that they drop a rumor about people being fired and then they go to a press guide to find out who those people are. Must be a rather vague rumor:

[I][B]"I heard the Redskins are going to fire someone in their front office." [/B][/I]

[I][B]"Who?"[/B][/I]

[I][B]"Don't know exactly. Someone."[/B][/I]

Is this the way people inside the "league circles" talk to each other?

My take: PFT is Commanding the Dawn again.