NFL Draft Countdown has the Skins taking Carriker
 

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I heard we're interested in him, but is he really worth the #6 overall, or we could probably still get him with a mid 1st rounder.

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he'll go 12-15. he's the safest 1st round DE, but we could afford a drop down a bit if at all possible instead of picking him straight up at #6.

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whos that guy? i didnt even know he was on our radar? besides, you KNOW we are gonna trade down, even though if adams is still available, i would love to see him in some burgundy and gold, whos with me?

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I dont think we will use that pick b/c we might trade down w/ buffalo if the draft plays out like that

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Trading down and picking up an extra day one pick and grabbing Carreker would be fine in my mind. He can play.

~Bang

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I'm so much more worried about the middle of the D-line. We started Golston for most of last year, and he was... servicable. We can't expect Carter (or Daniels) to have any pop if they can be doubled every time.

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Unless somebody comes up with a deal for about 23 extra picks and 3 pro bowlers, nothing will happen until we're on the clock. Gotta' see who's available. THEN it will get good!

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[quote=BrudLee;288873]I'm so much more worried about the middle of the D-line. We started Golston for most of last year, and he was... servicable. We can't expect Carter (or Daniels) to have any pop if they can be doubled every time.[/quote]Would we try to use Carriker as a DT?

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[quote=EXoffender;288926]Would we try to use Carriker as a DT?[/quote]Nah, he'd play the LE opposite Carter. We'd be set at the ends for the forseeable future.

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[QUOTE=BangCartoon;288872]Trading down and picking up an extra day one pick and grabbing Carreker would be fine in my mind. He can play.

~Bang[/QUOTE]

I'm with that idea.

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i like this guy alot...he can rush the passer and play the run, he is very athletic and big. but heres my deal, i think the more pressing need is at DT and if we are gonna take him, i suggest we take okoye instead to fill the more pressing need.......you can find pass rushing specialist throughout the draft, even if undersized they can still just play third downs.

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This would be a great situation. Grab him in the middle, trade down and grab OG or CB.

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If Quinn is on the board at our pick we will trade down, if we can trade down and take alan branch that is the ultimate win- win situation

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[quote=holcknowsbest;288930]i like this guy alot...he can rush the passer and play the run, he is very athletic and big. but heres my deal, i think the more pressing need is at DT and if we are gonna take him, i suggest we take okoye instead to fill the more pressing need.......you can find pass rushing specialist throughout the draft, even if undersized they can still just play third downs.[/quote]

I don't think DT is the more pressing need, unless the staff doesn't see any potential in Golston & Montgomery, however I like Okoye better than any of the d-linemen in the draft & I just have a feeling that he's a future star and a guy the team could build around. JLC says the coaches love him.

DE is the most pressing need w/Daniels & Wynn both in their 30s & Evans not showing he's starting material. I'd be happy if we got Carriker, Anderson or Okoye.

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I really want Anderson. He's not just a pass rusher he can also string out a run and has good technique. And it's not just Quinn that teams are wanting to trade up for. Denver really wants the 6 pick and they just took Cutler last year.

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I myself would prefer Okoye but Carriker would great too.

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I don't see him going in the top 10.

I do like his size, but he's not a dominant speed rusher. Scouts Inc. says he'll be best suited as a DE in a 3-4 D or in a DT/DE rotation in a 4-3.

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We certainly wish there was a few Julius Peppers types in the draft to make our selection a little easier. I agree it's not likely we would take him at #6.Maybe if we trade down they may have an interest in him as a later round selection.

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If he's just above avg. as a pass rusher but very solid vs. the run, he would be a good fit. Carter is our best rusher but weak vs. the run. We need a DE that's solid on all downs. If that's Anderson then I'm all for him if we go DE.

I think Okoye might be a special player. I would love to see us trade down, grab him and get a couple young de's and guards in the draft.

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i think we'll trade down with denver.

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[QUOTE=rypper11;289024]I really want Anderson. He's not just a pass rusher he can also string out a run and has good technique. And it's not just Quinn that teams are wanting to trade up for. Denver really wants the 6 pick and they just took Cutler last year.[/QUOTE] I am with you on Anderson! But I know we will go another way. Like last year when we signed Arch not Chris Hope!

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;289092]If he's just above avg. as a pass rusher but very solid vs. the run, he would be a good fit. Carter is our best rusher but weak vs. the run. We need a DE that's solid on all downs. If that's Anderson then I'm all for him if we go DE.

I think Okoye might be a special player. I would love to see us trade down, grab him and get a couple young de's and guards in the draft.[/QUOTE] Okoye would be my second choice! After Anderson!

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i say charles johnson.

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charles johnson would let you trade down into the late first or possibly the early to mid 2nd. obviously his chances of being a stud are lower, but he'd be a decent choice if we had to choose from the 2nd tier of DL talent.

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I've seen Carriker as our pick on several on line mock drafts and it doesn't really add up.

1. He's a better fit for a 3-4 DE.
2. Not good value at 6th pick
3. We want a pass rushing DE
4. Although he may be able to play tackle. There are better tackle prospects.

I think the guys who made up these mock drafts through in Carriker for us because we have need at DE and DT and this guy may be able to play both positions. I don't think he really satisfies either need for us.

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isnt 6 too high for #6? plus will he be a good nfl pass rusher?

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I heard we're interested in him, but is he really worth the #6 overall, or we could probably still get him with a mid 1st rounder.[/quote]

I would not be surprised if we traded down and took him little later than #6. Also, I would not be shocked if we took him at #6. He's truly a monster and could get to 310 or so without losing speed (4.90). He's a champion lifter and cut. Last year he put on ten pounds by weight room work to 295 and actually increased his speed. He's a great DE against the run and got a lot of sacks in college by shedding blockers (he was often double teamed.) He got 16.5 sacks in two year and had huge number of stops in the backfield. Against fewer blockers in the pros his sack total per game will probably go up, rather than down. He would, in effect, give us both a rusher and a run stopper in the same package, which neither Adams, Anderson. Branch, or Okoye would do.
He might be the strongest guy in the draft and his intangibles are rated exceptionally high. He's also one of the most frighteningly ugly guys I've ever seen-- looks a lot like Frankenstein. He could wind up being as feared as ST.

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carriker could probably be like aaron kampman. slow white guy that just gets it done. kampman gets tons of tackles AND tons of sacks without 4.6 speed.

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He might not have the 4.6 speed of say adams but he is also an inch and 40 pounds heavier than him and stronger. If we trade down, which i hope we do, this guy would be an excellent selection, but probley couldnt get him past the first 15 picks. I am also very interested in laRon landry, move taylor to strong safety and have landy as free, with his 4.3 speed and fearce hitting would be a big upgrade back to a dominant defense.