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TenandSix:Unacceptable 04-20-2007 10:20 PM

My worst fear
 
I found this on extremeskins:


[URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=2842857&name=clayton_john"]http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blo...me=clayton_john[/URL]


"The Dolphins are scrambling for a quarterback and would like to get Green before the draft. But what if the Dolphins put a draft-day deadline on making a Green trade? If Brady Quinn slips out of the top five, the Dolphins could trade up from No. 9 to get him. The Redskins would be willing to trade the No. 6 pick. If you look at the trade chart numbers, it would cost the Dolphins a third-round choice to move from No. 9 to No. 6. The Dolphins would then have Quinn and the Chiefs would lose a trading partner for Green."

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In theory this is great, because we still draft high while getting back a pick for the Duckett muff. The problem is that we would have no Okoye or Landry at 9. No Gains Adams either most likely. It could turn into a nightmare scenario as far as I can see. I just imagine us finally valuing draft picks over star power only to pick a bust at 9 and watch as Okoye and Landry tear up the league for years to come. I think I might be too obsessed with those players, but passing on them and getting a 3rd rounder as insurance on who we draft at 9 sounds sketchy to me, especially with the recent news about Branch's legs. We'd be pretty much be forced to draft Anderson at 9 or go in a completely different direction.

My ideal scenario would be that Quinn, Okoye and LL fall to 6, and that Minn or Atl trade up with us for a fourth so they can have their pick of the three. We could potentially still add one of those guys and get a pick. The worst case scenario with that type of trade is us having Quinn at 8 and that Atl and Minn take Okoye and LL. We could potentially move down again with the ND QB sitting in our laps and it would give us a lot more leverage than, let's say, Peterson at 9. Teams know we CANīT draft a RB. We COULD draft Quinn if no one offers us suitable value and trade him later to the highest bidder.


Thoughts?

PS- Man, all these possibilities are making my head spin. I'm probably putting WAY too much thought to this. I think I should stick myself into a pre-draft hiatus.

SmootSmack 04-20-2007 10:28 PM

Re: My worst fear
 
I think we'd be fine if we made that trade. Consider the following

Oakland-Russell
Detroit-Adams
Cleveland-Peterson
Tampa-Johnson
Arizona-Thomas
Redskins-trade pick to Dolphins, Fins select Quinn
Vikings-Anderson, Landry, or Okoye
Falcons-probably Landry if he's not taken

So at 9 we'd still have a shot of Landry or Okoye. And if not there's Jamaal Anderson (who's no slouch imo) plus another day one pick

I make this trade

dmek25 04-20-2007 11:12 PM

Re: My worst fear
 
what the heck are the skins going to do if they don't get Landry? tenandsix's head will probably explode. if I'm the skins, i make this trade

skinsfan_nn 04-20-2007 11:30 PM

Re: My worst fear
 
No Meltdowns? The real draft will be here in a week.

jrocx69 04-20-2007 11:52 PM

Re: My worst fear
 
at #9 go with adam carriker. solid choice

and 3rd round go with S eric weddle or WR Jason Hill or a guy i really really like in Tim Shaw OLB/DE penn state.

not bad for a trade down you are so afraid of... versatility with our line selection and either a cover safety or a stud pac 10 WR or a speed rusher to help with carriker whos better with the run

Pocket$ $traight 04-21-2007 12:02 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
Scout's inc has Okoye 10th. Kiper has him 7th, Adams 9th, and Anderson 10th.

If this team passes up the opportunity to pick up a 3rd round pick to drop 3 spaces they should be banned from running a football team. They actually have had some recent success in the 3rd round (Dockery and Cooley) and they have holes all over the D-line.

If they picked up a 3rd round pick and any of the guys at the 9 spot, all of us should be thrilled.

ArtMonkDrillz 04-21-2007 01:29 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
getting pushed overboard while out in the middle of the ocean.

SmootSmack 04-21-2007 02:22 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;300645]Scout's inc has Okoye 10th. Kiper has him 7th, Adams 9th, and Anderson 10th.

If this team passes up the opportunity to pick up a 3rd round pick to drop 3 spaces they should be banned from running a football team. They actually have had some recent success in the 3rd round (Dockery and Cooley) and they have holes all over the D-line.

If they picked up a 3rd round pick and any of the guys at the 9 spot, all of us should be thrilled.[/QUOTE]

More I think about though, if Petrino has a chance to reunite with Okoye a 8 he probably will.

Still would make the trade. We could go Carriker and a S in the 3rd round, or if Landry happens to fall to us we can take him in the 1st and someone like Mebane or Abiamiri in the 3rd

Alvin#40 04-21-2007 04:18 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
:confused:

Beemnseven 04-21-2007 08:37 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;300630]I think we'd be fine if we made that trade. Consider the following

Oakland-Russell
Detroit-Adams
Cleveland-Peterson
Tampa-Johnson
Arizona-Thomas
Redskins-trade pick to Dolphins, Fins select Quinn
Vikings-Anderson, Landry, or Okoye
Falcons-probably Landry if he's not taken

So at 9 we'd still have a shot of Landry or Okoye. And if not there's Jamaal Anderson (who's no slouch imo) plus another day one pick

I make this trade[/QUOTE]

For Okoye or Landry to get past the Vikings and the Falcons would be nothing short of a miracle.

But the Vikings have been stocking up on D-line picks for the past few years. Kenechi Udeze, Kevin Williams, Erasmus James ... come to think of it, with all those top draft picks going to highly touted D-linemen, Minnesota should have one of the best front fours in all of football shouldn't they?

Judging by that, you'd think they'd lean towards offense. After Russell, CJ, Quinn and Peterson, who's the next offensive skill type player to go in the #7-#10 range? Isn't there a good chance that the Vikings could try to outbid the Dolphins for a shot at Brady Quinn?

skins009 04-21-2007 09:26 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
You have it exactly right trend6, the reason is that there is 8 elite players in this draft. C Johnson, J Russell, A Peterson, J Thomas, G Adams, A Okoye, L Landry, B Quinn. After that there is a major drop off in talent. So trading to 9 for a third round pick would be dumb if you ask me. And forget about the draft chart, I think its the dumbest thing out there. I know the redskins are a big believer in the chart. That probably the reason we make so many dumb moves (TJ Duckett for a 3rd rounder). I would make this trade unless Miami gives up their 2nd round pick.

70Chip 04-21-2007 10:14 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
I would point out that just because the trade value chart says a 3rd rounder doesn't mean that that's what the Redskins would take. Those charts aren't binding, they are just a guideline. If the Dolphins really want the pick we can put the screws to them. The pressure is on the team that wants to move up.

NicknacK89 04-21-2007 11:23 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
on sportscenter yesterday, my boy john clayton said that a trade could happen between the vikings and skins so that the dolphins wouldnt trade up... wouldnt that be best case scenario? we move down one spot but get a 4th rounder or something along with getting the player we want

SmootSmack 04-21-2007 11:43 AM

Re: My worst fear
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;300677]For Okoye or Landry to get past the Vikings and the Falcons would be nothing short of a miracle.

But the Vikings have been stocking up on D-line picks for the past few years. Kenechi Udeze, Kevin Williams, Erasmus James ... come to think of it, with all those top draft picks going to highly touted D-linemen, Minnesota should have one of the best front fours in all of football shouldn't they?

Judging by that, you'd think they'd lean towards offense. After Russell, CJ, Quinn and Peterson, who's the next offensive skill type player to go in the #7-#10 range? Isn't there a good chance that the Vikings could try to outbid the Dolphins for a shot at Brady Quinn?[/QUOTE]

Yeah there is a good shot. The four names I keep hearing rotating at the top of the Vikings list are Quinn, Peterson, Landry and then the "wild card" is Ted Ginn. They were high on Ginn a while back, not sure how much they still are.


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