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MTK 05-10-2007 10:24 AM

Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/7529976"]NFL.com - Washington Redskins Team News[/URL]

The base contract is 7 years, $18M with a signing bonus of $7.2M.

With option and roster bonuses, that brings his potential bonus money to over $13M.

His contract also includes escalators that could bring his total contract to over $40M, with the 7th year voidable. The escalators are based on playing time, performance, and Pro Bowl or All-Pro selections.

Considering his Pro Bowl appearance last year and the fact he hasn't missed any significant time so far in his career, you'd have to think he's already hit some of those escalators.

So the question is, how do we really know that he's unhappy about his current contract when we really don't know what he's been paid to date as far as escalators go?

12thMan 05-10-2007 10:27 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
I would also think things like leading the team in tackles, defensive touchdowns, fumble recoveries all factor into that as well.

BrunellMVP? 05-10-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=12thMan;308794]I would also think things like leading the team in tackles, defensive touchdowns, fumble recoveries all factor into that as well.[/quote]

what type of pay checks are the top 1-10 at the safety position pulling in?

Bushead 05-10-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
What did Arch get paid last year?

MTK 05-10-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=12thMan;308794]I would also think things like leading the team in tackles, defensive touchdowns, fumble recoveries all factor into that as well.[/quote]

Yeah good point, those would probably fall under the performance part.

I'd guess he's probably already hit some pretty significant escalators.

Schneed10 05-10-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=Mattyk72;308792][URL="http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/7529976"]NFL.com - Washington Redskins Team News[/URL]

The base contract is 7 years, $18M with a signing bonus of $7.2M.

With option and roster bonuses, that brings his potential bonus money to over $13M.

His contract also includes escalators that could bring his total contract to over $40M, with the 7th year voidable. The escalators are based on playing time, performance, and Pro Bowl or All-Pro selections.

Considering his Pro Bowl appearance last year and the fact he hasn't missed any significant time so far in his career, you'd have to think he's already hit some of those escalators.

So the question is, how do we really know that he's unhappy about his current contract when we really don't know what he's been paid to date as far as escalators go?[/quote]

The pro-bowl clause is an interesting one, the article says pro-bowl "selections." Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Taylor actually an alternate last year, and got to fill in as first-alternate when Brian Dawkins bowed out? Who knows how that affects the escalator.

But your point still stands, he could have a higher salary for all we know. Furthermore, whether he had escalators or not, that still does not have any bonus money due to him. The $13 million in bonuses has already been paid. So if he wants to collect the REMAINING money that is due to him (whether it's escalated or not), he still needs to show up and play for us.

This is just to say that the 'Skins have the leverage if Taylor even decided to raise a contract stink (which we don't know if he will). Taylor is still going to play for us because it's in his financial best interests. He's not going to try a hold-out, so everyone chill.

MTK 05-10-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
Yeah who knows how the Pro Bowl wording is in his deal, I'd guess if you go to the Pro Bowl that would count, but who knows.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-10-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=Bushead;308798]What did Arch get paid last year?[/quote]


6 years 30 million

CrazyCanuck 05-10-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;308803]But your point still stands, he could have a higher salary for all we know. Furthermore, whether he had escalators or not, that still does not have any bonus money due to him. The $13 million in bonuses has already been paid. So if he wants to collect the REMAINING money that is due to him (whether it's escalated or not), he still needs to show up and play for us.

This is just to say that the 'Skins have the leverage if Taylor even decided to raise a contract stink (which we don't know if he will). Taylor is still going to play for us because it's in his financial best interests. He's not going to try a hold-out, so everyone chill.[/QUOTE]

I hope you're right. I still worry.

Like you said all his bonus money has been collected and the contract runs through 2009 at least. Seems like a long time to just play for salary (long time in today's NFL). TO is the king of the bonus money game - sign a deal with big bonus money, play for a year or two, whine and complain, sign with another team for more bonus money, rinse and repeat... I hope Taylor doesn't try to play this game but he does have the same agent.

And let's not forget that Taylor was already holding out in 2005, ONE year into his current contract. Luckily for us he got really attached to that ATV and his pending arrest forced him to put his contract demands on hold.

I hope Taylor has matured since then. Personally I don't think his play warrants a new contract at this point. He's made pretty good money so far, more than he's been worth IMO. I think he's a very good player with potential to be a superstar, but he's not there yet. If he wants to get paid like the Ray Lewises and Urlachers of the world he needs to step up his game and become a true team leader on and off the field.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-10-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4IwILlqwi4]YouTube - Sean Taylor Highlight Tape[/url]

dont you just love him

MonkFan4Life 05-10-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
I read one of the comments where a guy said that Taylor is not a solid coverage player. Do these people forget that this is the same guy that went 1 on 1 with Randy Moss and covered him like insurance ? He had a bad year last year but seriously, the man can cover.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-10-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;308873]I read one of the comments where a guy said that Taylor is not a solid coverage player. Do these people forget that this is the same guy that went 1 on 1 with Randy Moss and covered him like insurance ? He had a bad year last year but seriously, the man can cover.[/quote]


i know people was crazy

Rajmahal33 05-10-2007 12:46 PM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
what's not to love, his arms are like lead pipes when he clotheslines guys who outweigh him and stops them dead in the tracks

DGreen28 05-10-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;308855][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4IwILlqwi4"]YouTube - Sean Taylor Highlight Tape[/URL]

dont you just love him[/quote]
Maybe he should were number 36 again

JDALY27 05-10-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Some clarification regarding Sean Taylor's contract
 
[quote=Mattyk72;308792][URL="http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/7529976"]NFL.com - Washington Redskins Team News[/URL]

The base contract is 7 years, $18M with a signing bonus of $7.2M.

With option and roster bonuses, that brings his potential bonus money to over $13M.

His contract also includes escalators that could bring his total contract to over $40M, with the 7th year voidable. The escalators are based on playing time, performance, and Pro Bowl or All-Pro selections.

Considering his Pro Bowl appearance last year and the fact he hasn't missed any significant time so far in his career, you'd have to think he's already hit some of those escalators.

So the question is, how do we really know that he's unhappy about his current contract when we really don't know what he's been paid to date as far as escalators go?[/quote]

Where is the escalator clause information? Never heard that before. He has an opt out clause after next season. We need to re-sign him now so that he's a Redskin for life. Don't need some desperate team out there to throw huge money his way and potentially lose him. That would be a Nightmare!!


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