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saden1 05-16-2007 12:49 AM

Group Coerced Censorship
 
What's with this whole group coerced censorship? People in here wouldn't be talking about respecting the dead and such if the death of Bin Laden was announced tomorrow. Yeah, I put him in the same category as Bin Laden because he is poison.

I call B.S. on the closure of the Falwell thread.

KLHJ2 05-16-2007 01:10 AM

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What did I miss? I do not understand this thread.

djnemo65 05-16-2007 01:11 AM

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I think that when you are a public figure, moreover one who has chosen a life of publicity, you kind of forego the right to be respected in death with the same care we would apply to someone more inconspicuous. Whatever your thoughts on the man, Falwell was a character of great historical significance. I was especially saddened to see the thread closed because, while I detest him personally, I wanted to see someone defend him substantively. I was looking forward to that dialogue. Also, I think people have gotten really good at disagreeing respectively about sensitive things on this site, especially compared with the past. Just throwing that out there.

I pm'd sherrif about this and he was cool and humble. He said he made the call and maybe it was the wrong one. So I'm not sure it's censorship Saden. I think the mods would probably consider reopening the thread if we ask nicely and promise to behave.

Redskins8588 05-16-2007 01:11 AM

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[QUOTE=angryssg;310437]What did I miss? I do not understand this thread.[/QUOTE]

see the following thread... [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-warpath-parking-lot/18279-jerry-falwell-no-more.html[/url]

SmootSmack 05-16-2007 01:15 AM

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I wouldn't neccesarily equate Bin Laden with Falwell, but regardless I believe SGG locked the thread in anticipation of what might become of the thread. Those are decisions the mods sometimes have to make.

Maybe it was the right decision, maybe it wasn't. Either way, although any mod could reopen the thread I think I would leave it up to SGG to decide if he feels it should open again and he can do so if he chooses.

Lady Brave 05-16-2007 01:24 AM

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What is there really to say about him other than the fact that he died? Falwell became irrelevant years ago. His own denomination basically stopped listening to him as other prominent christian figures came to the forefront. Attributing him to someone who was responsible for the mass murder of 3000 innocent civilians is a bit over the top IMO. That thread would have most likely turned into yet another religious debate and ultimately a flaming pile of poo. Kudos to the folks who recognized that and opted to have it closed.

saden1 05-16-2007 01:36 AM

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If Falwell is irrelevant why are so many presidential candidates visiting with him? As for comparison with Bin Laden, Falwell may not kill people physically but he kills minds and poisons souls.

Lady Brave 05-16-2007 01:39 AM

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[quote=saden1;310449]If Falwell is irrelevant why are so many presidential candidates visiting with him?[/quote]

His influence has waned over the years. People like James Dobson are much more influential now within the Christian community. That's all I'm saying.

KLHJ2 05-16-2007 01:53 AM

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There is an inevitable truth that every man is going to have to live with his actions (good and bad) throughout his life, and they will even be revisited by many thereafter. While he may have had [B]some[/B] truth in his beliefs, he was also misguided, and mislead people in other ways. When someone admits to error, human nature is to be judgemental and not allow for forgiveness. With that being said. Yes he may have messed up alot, but are you seriously going to sit there and say that a man is poison, and honestly believe that you are so much better than him? Let me ask you this, but keep the answer to yourself, you do not have to tell me. What might you have done in your life that you are so ashamed of, that you will never do again, that maybe yourself or even others may not ever let you live down? Everyone has secrets and embarrassments some just more public than others.

saden1 05-16-2007 02:25 AM

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[QUOTE=angryssg;310453]There is an inevitable truth that every man is going to have to live with his actions (good and bad) throughout his life, and they will even be revisited by many thereafter. While he may have had [B]some[/B] truth in his beliefs, he was also misguided, and mislead people in other ways. When someone admits to error, human nature is to be judgemental and not allow for forgiveness. With that being said. Yes he may have messed up alot, but are you seriously going to sit there and say that a man is poison, and honestly believe that you are so much better than him? Let me ask you this, but keep the answer to yourself, you do not have to tell me. What might you have done in your life that you are so ashamed of, that you will never do again, that maybe yourself or even others may not ever let you live down? Everyone has secrets and embarrassments some just more public than others.[/QUOTE]

Let he without a sin cast the first stone?

KLHJ2 05-16-2007 02:42 AM

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[quote=saden1;310457]Let he without a sin cast the first stone?[/quote]

That is exactly what I am talking about.

dmek25 05-16-2007 06:35 AM

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i really don't know what to say about this. while i respect Falwell's death, i agree he was definitely one to poison the minds of others. i also thing that sgg wasn't trying to censure, but to avoid what could have been. i also agree that we have been playing very nice around here with some delicate subject matter, so he probably jumped the gun alittle early

Mattyk 05-16-2007 07:20 AM

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Falwell was a hate monger, plain and simple. I do agree with the basic point of nobody would be crying over the death of someone like Bin Laden.

dmek25 05-16-2007 08:34 AM

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i agree, but I'm not sure with the comparison

Mattyk 05-16-2007 08:40 AM

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Forget about the individuals being compared. The simple point is some think that we shouldn't have any thing negative to say about the dead. I think that's wrong, there are plenty of people who are very controversial in life and in death. Falwell was not a very likable person to put it lightly, so it's not a big surprise that his death isn't exactly bringing about kind words from some people.


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