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SmootSmack 07-17-2007 05:27 PM

Grand Jury Indicts Vick
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2940065]ESPN - Falcons QB Vick indicted in dogfighting probe - NFL[/url]

Dlyne8r 07-17-2007 05:30 PM

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Way to go Falcons. Brilliant move to jettison Matt Schaub (sp?)

Warpath 07-17-2007 05:49 PM

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This article has some horrible stuff in it...
...Fifty-four pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, [B]along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating[/B]; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
...Fights would end when one dog died or with the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents. The property has an above-ground swimming pool, and investigators were seen looking into the pool Friday.
...investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed...

Im not sure what actually happens when a person gets indicted. Does that mean there will be a trial? As a dog owner I can't see how people can do this and think its horrific. I hope Vick goes down, not because I don't like him but because hes famous and maybe they can make a big deal of out this so that people will know its not tolerated in the future.

RobH4413 07-17-2007 06:04 PM

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I don't think the "I don't live here, and I don't know what's going on" is going to fly anymore. He's fuct.

GusFrerotte 07-17-2007 06:08 PM

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Didn't think it would get this far, but it has and now Vick is screwed, Indicted in a federal probe is big trouble. It will be bye bye Vick. His fantasy value just tanked!!!!!! Thank God I never like him as a fantasy player!!!

#56fanatic 07-17-2007 06:17 PM

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I hope this fool is found guilty and sent to jail - For someone to have signed over a $100million dollar contract and still have to be involved in something so horrible is just down right pathetic. For god sake, can someone tell me why these idiot athletes have to be involved in stupid stuff like this. I mean even getting caught drinking and driving blows my mind! Even us regular peeps know to take a freaking cab - these idiots can have limos w/ drivers to take them anywhere they want to go. I hope he is put away if found guilty - make him an example for all these morons who think they are above the law. I pray to god its not just a fine, that means absolutely nothing to these fools.

skinsfan69 07-17-2007 06:20 PM

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Plain and simple, dogfighting is disgusting. But why are the feds invloved in this? It's not a murder case, or drugs or terrorism. This is what the feds should be worried about. Not dogfighting. I think it's because Vick's name is on the property and someone is trying to make a name for themselves.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-17-2007 06:26 PM

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[quote=Warpath;330090]This article has some horrible stuff in it...
...Fifty-four pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, [B]along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating[/B]; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
...Fights would end when one dog died or with the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents. The property has an above-ground swimming pool, and investigators were seen looking into the pool Friday.
...investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed...

Im not sure what actually happens when a person gets indicted. Does that mean there will be a trial? As a dog owner I can't see how people can do this and think its horrific. I hope Vick goes down, not because I don't like him but because hes famous and maybe they can make a big deal of out this so that people will know its not tolerated in the future.[/quote]


That is crazy, wow. I am speechless.

#56fanatic 07-17-2007 06:29 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;330103]Plain and simple, dogfighting is disgusting. But why are the feds invloved in this? It's not a murder case, or drugs or terrorism. This is what the feds should be worried about. Not dogfighting. I think it's because Vick's name is on the property and someone is trying to make a name for themselves.[/quote]


Dog fighting is a federal offense. Plus the district attorney for Surry county was doing absolutely nothing. He had a search warrant, and backed off it saying "he didn't like the way it was worded" if Pointexter was doing his job, the feds would not have gotten involved. I am sure it being Vick had something to do about it, because all the national attention it was getting. Had it been me or you, I doubt they would have gotten involved. But that shouldn't matter - fact is - idiot was involved in dog fighting - disgracefull!! if I was a season ticket holder for the Falcons, those babies would be going back asking for a refund. You better believe that Mr Blank will have a ton of companies and sponsors asking for Vicks release.

Everybody is trying to make Vick out to be the victim here - saying the feds are involved because it's Mike Vick. how ridiculous is that! HE SPONSORED DOG FIGHTING! that is outlawed in every state in the us (except maybe one or two) like i said, had Poindexter been doing his job the feds would have done nothing. The feds were asked to get involved because that jackass was not doing anything.

BrudLee 07-17-2007 06:31 PM

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skinsfan69 07-17-2007 06:35 PM

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[quote=#56fanatic;330110]Dog fighting is a federal offense. Plus the district attorney for Surry county was doing absolutely nothing. He had a search warrant, and backed off it saying "he didn't like the way it was worded" if Pointexter was doing his job, the feds would not have gotten involved. I am sure it being Vick had something to do about it, because all the national attention it was getting. Had it been me or you, I doubt they would have gotten involved. But that shouldn't matter - fact is - idiot was involved in dog fighting - disgracefull!! if I was a season ticket holder for the Falcons, those babies would be going back asking for a refund. You better believe that Mr Blank will have a ton of companies and sponsors asking for Vicks release.

Everybody is trying to make Vick out to be the victim here - saying the feds are involved because it's Mike Vick. how ridiculous is that! HE SPONSORED DOG FIGHTING! that is outlawed in every state in the us (except maybe one or two) like i said, had Poindexter been doing his job the feds would have done nothing. The feds were asked to get involved because that jackass was not doing anything.[/quote]

Do u think he is guilty? Personally, I think he was funding the operation. Someone had to have the $ to fund the operation. Taking care of some 60 dogs is a lot of $.

BleedBurgundy 07-17-2007 07:13 PM

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I'd like to see them take all of the clowns involved in this bullshit and put them in a pit with a few of those dogs. Let them see first hand how "entertaining" this stuff is.

Personally, even with the indictment, I don't see how Vick gets convicted. He's got too much money and can afford the attornies he needs to get off. Short of a video, photo, signed document or other "concrete evidence" there's no way they'll get him for this. There's just too much money that he can throw at this, whether it's paying off witnesses or whatever.

#56fanatic 07-17-2007 07:13 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;330114]Do u think he is guilty? Personally, I think he was funding the operation. Someone had to have the $ to fund the operation. Taking care of some 60 dogs is a lot of $.[/quote]


absolutely i think he is guilty - according to the actual court papers there are several witnesses putting Vick at the fights, also agreeing with other kennell owners on fights, dates, and $$ figures. No doubt in my mind he was funding this - I think cnn has the actual court docs. take a look at those and make your own opinion. but, from reading them, he sent his boys out to search for property, which they found, and he bought it. The papers make it sound like they have proof it was bought for the breeding, training, and staging dog fights. there are i believe 4 witnesses from other kennels that put vick in or directly related to these fights.

tatrave 07-17-2007 07:39 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;330103]Plain and simple, dogfighting is disgusting. But why are the feds invloved in this? It's not a murder case, or drugs or terrorism. This is what the feds should be worried about. Not dogfighting. I think it's because Vick's name is on the property and someone is trying to make a name for themselves.[/quote]

Last year all dogfighting cases are federal...that's what they said on SportsCenter

BrudLee 07-17-2007 07:40 PM

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The indictment is available on [url=http://ajc.com]ajc.com | Atlanta Journal-Constitution[/url] (or click [URL="http://alt.cimedia.com/ajc/pdf/vick0717.pdf?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab"]here[/URL]).

Vick will likely not get convicted, though it won't have to do with money or celebrity. Mike Vick is going to sing. Every athlete, businessman, and raconteur who has ever been near a pit with Vick should seek legal counsel.


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