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MTK 07-25-2007 10:37 AM

ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2947420]ESPN - Clayton: NFC story lines heading into training camp - NFL[/url]

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"][B][COLOR=#000000]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/B][/URL] -- Players have been raving about the development of quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7201"][COLOR=#000000]Jason Campbell[/COLOR][/URL]. He has had an excellent offseason, but outsiders have to see how he is developing as a starter. Campbell didn't have a great pocket presence in his first year, but he was in a tough spot. Now, this is his team and his time to prove his ability.

BigSKINBauer 07-25-2007 10:38 AM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
yep, and that is the number one thing to watch in training camp this year.

firstdown 07-25-2007 10:50 AM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
I wonder how long he spent figuring that out.

12thMan 07-25-2007 10:51 AM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
I wonder how many of these guys browse Warpath then go and put their articles together?

Southpaw 07-25-2007 11:27 AM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
[quote=Mattyk72;332743]Campbell didn't have a great pocket presence in his first year, but he was in a tough spot. [/quote]

I completely disagree with this statement. It appeared to me that Campbell's pocket presence was above average, especially considering he had no prior NFL experience. One of his best attributes is that he's tough to bring down, and he's able to make plays with his legs when the pocket collapses.

Lady Brave 07-25-2007 11:56 AM

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[quote=Southpaw;332770]I completely disagree with this statement. It appeared to me that Campbell's pocket presence was above average, especially considering he had no prior NFL experience. One of his best attributes is that he's tough to bring down, and he's able to make plays with his legs when the pocket collapses.[/quote]
Yeah, I thought he looked great too, with the exception of him throwing it away a couple of times in mid tackle.

Plus, the reports have been that he's not squatting as much as last season, so that's good news. He won't be putting so much pressure on his knees getting off the snap and might be a bit quicker.

#56fanatic 07-25-2007 12:10 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
that is one thing that I was impressed with was JC's presence in the pocket. He looked good standing in, stepping up, and making plays with his legs. I think the only thing that can come into question is his ability coming in as a starter, to lead a team with playoff asperations, a lot of pressure out of the gate. he came in last year knowing he could make some mistakes. Plus the team wasn't really going anywhere last year. I will take some of bad stuff that he will eventually do during the year, but I just hope he offsets that with some amazing plays that win us games in the crunch.

MTK 07-25-2007 12:12 PM

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I'm sorta puzzled on the pocket presence comment myself. JC was cooler under fire than MB that's for sure.

JoeRedskin 07-25-2007 12:51 PM

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Seriously, in 7 games starting, JC showed more pocket presence than Ramsey ever had. (Yes - I went there)(BTW - I [I]liked[/I] Ramsey).

FRPLG 07-25-2007 12:53 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
[QUOTE=Southpaw;332770]I completely disagree with this statement. It appeared to me that Campbell's pocket presence was above average, especially considering he had no prior NFL experience. One of his best attributes is that he's tough to bring down, and he's able to make plays with his legs when the pocket collapses.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with you. I read that statement was like "huh?". He looked hella comfortable in there to me.

FRPLG 07-25-2007 12:55 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;332805]Seriously, in 7 games starting, JC showed more pocket presence than Ramsey ever had. (Yes - I went there)(BTW - I [I]liked[/I] Ramsey).[/QUOTE]

HAHA. That's exactly what I thought. I actually thought

"Huh? JC always looked real comfortable...well maybe I am just comparing him to Ramsey who has that Sixth Sense look in his eyes all the time. Nah he looked good to me."

freddyg12 07-25-2007 01:00 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
I agree w/all who disagree w/Clayton's statement about presence. Don't get that one, but then again clayton is a stat geek who tends to rely or fall back on #s rather than observation & evaluation of fundamentals.
He got one thing right, it's Campbell's team & that will be the story to watch.

Monkeydad 07-25-2007 01:04 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
[quote=Mattyk72;332743][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2947420"]ESPN - Clayton: NFC story lines heading into training camp - NFL[/URL]

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"][B][COLOR=#000000]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/B][/URL] -- Players have been raving about the development of quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7201"][COLOR=#000000]Jason Campbell[/COLOR][/URL]. He has had an excellent offseason, but outsiders have to see how he is developing as a starter. Campbell didn't have a great pocket presence in his first year, but he was in a tough spot. Now, this is his team and his time to prove his ability.[/quote]

Didn't have a good pocket presence? Did they miss NFL Replay against the Giants? That game wasn't an isolated example either. He has GREAT pocket presence. He's nearly impossible to bring down when under pressure too.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-25-2007 01:40 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
Yeah, I thought that was a little weirdly stated too. Clayton is good typically so I gave him a pass on that.

12thMan 07-25-2007 01:44 PM

Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC
 
Yeah, Clayton missed the boat on that one. Just another example of one guy trying to cover and report accurate information on 32 teams.


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