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BeastsoftheNFCeast 08-05-2007 08:14 PM

Top 5 coaches now
 
I was looking through the top5 coaches forum and wanted to post, but then realized im just 18 and cant post because of lack of knowlege about the past. So this forum is for the top 5 present coaches (including guys who retired this past season)

1. Bill Bellicheck (for 3 obvious reasons)
2. Andy Reid (his team has been dominating this league since I can remember)
3. Sean Payton/Eric Mangini (I know they only have one year under their belts, but they turned the second and 3rd worst teams into playoff teams)
4. Tony Dungy (Manning isnt the only reason why their team has been so dominant)
5. Mike Shanahan (the Broncos have been a force in the NFL since he has been with them)
5.5 Joe Gibbs (Im a redskins fan and therefore obligated to put him on this list, all time accomplishments he would be higher though, but he hasnt proven himself in this 2nd stint)

SmootSmack 08-05-2007 08:16 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
I'd put Jeff Fisher in that top 5 somewhere. Probably take out Mangini/Payton

JGisLordOfTheRings 08-05-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
I think Mangini and Payton deserve to be on that list DEF! Like SmootSmack said, they took the worst teams in their division in playoff teams and in Payton's case, Division champs! They deserve it....

SmootSmack 08-05-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;336412]I think Mangini and Payton deserve to be on that list DEF! Like SmootSmack said, they took the worst teams in their division in playoff teams and in Payton's case, Division champs! They deserve it....[/QUOTE]

I didn't say that

JGisLordOfTheRings 08-05-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[quote=SmootSmack;336413]I didn't say that[/quote]

I want trying to say that Fisher doesnt belong because he did a good job last year but, I believe a lot of their success was VY.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 08-05-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
billicheck
dungy
reid
shanahan
lovie smith

Cant put gibbs in on what he done in the past. This is for what they are doing now. These guys have been better than Gibbs in the last 3 yrs.

ncskinsfanec 08-05-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;336410]I was looking through the top5 coaches forum and wanted to post, but then realized im just 18 and cant post because of lack of knowlege about the past. So this forum is for the top 5 present coaches (including guys who retired this past season)

1. Bill Bellicheck (for 3 obvious reasons)
2. Andy Reid (his team has been dominating this league since I can remember)
3. Sean Payton/Eric Mangini (I know they only have one year under their belts, but they turned the second and 3rd worst teams into playoff teams)
4. Tony Dungy (Manning isnt the only reason why their team has been so dominant)
5. Mike Shanahan (the Broncos have been a force in the NFL since he has been with them)
5.5 Joe Gibbs (Im a redskins fan and therefore obligated to put him on this list, all time accomplishments he would be higher though, but he hasnt proven himself in this 2nd stint)[/quote]

I think Belichick (The Hoody) is a cheat, but he's still a pretty good coach. Reid is pretty good, and he'd be even better if he had a QB with some guts. Payton and Mangini, please! After only one season? Dungy, great coach even better person. Shanahan has proven himself in the past, but not much lately. Overall, a pretty fair assessment. I'd have to go with:

1. Tony Dungy
2. Joe Gibbs
3. The Hoody
4. Mike Shanahan
5. Mike Holmgren

All my choices have gotten their teams to the big stage and won at least one Super Bowl.

12thMan 08-05-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
Love Gibbs to death, but he 'aint in the top 5.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 08-05-2007 09:01 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
Gibbs in only there on his 80's record. Not on his comeback

SlabHurta 08-05-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
Top 5 in my mind:

5. Tony Dungy (Put together some of the best defenses ever in Tampa Bay, won superbowl last season)

4. Andy Reid (Went to four straight NFC Championships and superbowl with the Eagles)

3. Mike Shanahan (Had one of the most consistent winning teams in the AFC with the Broncos)

2. Mike Holmgren (The guy has always had some great offenses with Green Bay and Seattle. Also has went to 2 Superbowls with 2 different teams)

1. Bill Belichek (I don't think you can argue this choice. Has completely turned around the Patriots by winning 3 superbowls)

I would of loved to put Joe Gibbs up there, and if this was a question about the best coaches in the league right now over all-time, Gibbs would probably be near the top.

SmootSmack 08-05-2007 09:37 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[QUOTE=SlabHurta;336455]Top 5 in my mind:

5. Tony Dungy (Put together some of the best defenses ever in Tampa Bay, won superbowl last season)

4. Andy Reid (Went to four straight NFC Championships and superbowl with the Eagles)

3. Mike Shanahan (Had one of the most consistent winning teams in the AFC with the Broncos)

2. Mike Holmgren (The guy has always had some great offenses with Green Bay and Seattle. Also has went to 2 Superbowls with 2 different teams)

1. Bill Belichek (I don't think you can argue this choice. Has completely turned around the Patriots by winning 3 superbowls)

I would of loved to put Joe Gibbs up there, and if this was a question about the best coaches in the league right now over all-time, Gibbs would probably be near the top.[/QUOTE]

You just cited all-time stats for all the above coaches, and Gibbs' credentials are as good if not better than any of them.

724Skinsfan 08-05-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
Wow, no mention of Wade Phillips?

j/k

Gruden had a shot at the top 5 before the last couple of years but not now.
I'd go with:

1) Bill Belichek - even though I agree with whoever thought he was a cheater. I can't put my finger on it but I swear he's doing something outside of the rules of the game somehow.

2) Andy Reid - hard to argue with 4 straight NFC championship games plus last year's amazing finish.

3) Herm Edwards - I just think he is a very focused man and knows how to maximize the resources he has onhand.

4) Mike Holmgren - Been coaching for a long time and taking two teams to SuperBowls is a great accomplishment.

5) Joe Gibbs - homer reasons only; but I'd like to add that I really love his commitment to the team and his selfless ability to step down and bring in topnotch coaches. If you're not buying that then just stick Shanahan in there even though I think he cheats (no proof) as well.

ncskinsfanec 08-05-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;336460]Wow, no mention of Wade Phillips?

j/k

Gruden had a shot at the top 5 before the last couple of years but not now.
I'd go with:

1) Bill Belichek - even though I agree with whoever thought he was a cheater. I can't put my finger on it but I swear he's doing something outside of the rules of the game somehow.

2) Andy Reid - hard to argue with 4 straight NFC championship games plus last year's amazing finish.

3) Herm Edwards - I just think he is a very focused man and knows how to maximize the resources he has onhand.

4) Mike Holmgren - Been coaching for a long time and taking two teams to SuperBowls is a great accomplishment.

5) Joe Gibbs - homer reasons only; but I'd like to add that I really love his commitment to the team and his selfless ability to step down and bring in topnotch coaches. If you're not buying that then just stick Shanahan in there even though I think he cheats (no proof) as well.[/quote]

Herm Edwards? Really? And yes Belichick is a cheater in more ways than one!

[url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04023/264687.stm]Collier: Cheating pays dividends for Patriots and Coach What's-his-name[/url]
[url=http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2006/11/bill-belichick-trying-to-delay.html]Sports Law Blog[/url]

SmootSmack 08-05-2007 09:56 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
I'll say, in no particular order:

Joe Gibbs
Mike Holmgren
Tony Dungy
Jeff Fisher
Bill Belichick

Kind of tempted to find some spot for Brian Billick there

724Skinsfan 08-05-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Top 5 coaches now
 
[quote=ncskinsfanec;336463]Herm Edwards? Really? And yes Belichick is a cheater in more ways than one!

[URL="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04023/264687.stm"]Collier: Cheating pays dividends for Patriots and Coach What's-his-name[/URL]
[URL="http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2006/11/bill-belichick-trying-to-delay.html"]Sports Law Blog[/URL][/quote]

Wanted to put Herm in here for a little change of pace from the standard set of responses. This could very well be THE defining year for Herm. He's not inheriting Parcell's team nor an offensive juggernaut that the Chiefs were with Trent Green and Saunders. This this season it's all on him to win games.


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