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artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007 03:19 PM

Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
Alright.... This is a great thing to see in our team. Young Guys that we drafted getting in there and making plays. Rocky, Taylor, Landry, Carlos, HB.. all drafted by us. This is the new way of thinking at Redskins Park and needs to be the way we build our team. I used to be a huge fan of bringing in the big name Free Agents, but I must say they have never performed very well and hurt our team in the long run. Whether it be by financially hurting us or just not gelling with the current group of guys there at the time. What has changed my thinking on this is just how well we have drafted since Gibbs has been here. Granted only one of them has made the ProBowl, but the level of talent on the team has been vastly improved prior to the second Gibbs era.

Next year I would like this team to focus more on the offense, becuase that has been the side of the ball that has been most anemic. We need a good Young tall reciever, a young RB, oline men, and another young TE (considering we aren't getting the Cooley deal done yet). We can't just fill in out offense by pluggin in undrafted free agents. Granted it seems we may have struck a little gold in Heyer but as far as wide outs I just don't think we are going to find Moss's wing man in the undrafted class. Lolyd may come through but I would still love to have a BIG young Target for Jason.

Anyway thats just my take on things. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

dmek25 08-20-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
why is everyone drooling over a tall receiver? does size matter, as long as you catch the ball? and you talk about a young running back. how old is betts? and portis? and betts legs should be very fresh, considering the amount of carries he has had in his short career. we need to draft lineman on both sides of the ball

SkinsFanSince91 08-20-2007 05:42 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;341976]why is everyone drooling over a tall receiver? does size matter, as long as you catch the ball? and you talk about a young running back. how old is betts? and portis? and betts legs should be very fresh, considering the amount of carries he has had in his short career. we need to draft lineman on both sides of the ball[/QUOTE]

Big receivers have a wider and taller "catch radius" without having to leap exponentially to snag the ball. Like Fitzgerald, Terrell Owens, and now Calvin Johnson, they are all able to use their frames to shield defenders from making plays on the ball. Ex-basketball players (ex. Gonzalez, Gates, & R. Moss) who play in the NFL use this to "box out" the defender.

We do need at least one outside of Cooley to be a red zone weapon at least.

GridIron26 08-20-2007 05:44 PM

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My personal opinion is at first day of draft, we need to search and draft a DE or G.. Those areas are priorities compared to others.. Well, yea what about WRs? I think we won't have any problem with WRs this year, we gotta give some players a second chance sometime.. As for TE, I don't think we need to draft other unless Cooley leaves and sign somewhere else (I PRAY TO GOD THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN), we already have Yoder who seems to do well lately..

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
Well it sure would be nice for a good redzone threat and down the middle of the field on 3rd and 2nd and longs. Not having to punish our smaller recievers in the middle or get them hurt. Those are a couple of reasons why a possesion reciever would be nice. I don't know take your pick.

Hell check out my name. A 6'3" possesion reciever that we all think should be in the Hall of Fame. I don't know why everybody wants a big reciever?

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-20-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
[quote=dmek25;341976]why is everyone drooling over a tall receiver? does size matter, as long as you catch the ball? and you talk about a young running back. how old is betts? and portis? and betts legs should be very fresh, considering the amount of carries he has had in his short career. we need to draft lineman on both sides of the ball[/quote]


Portis and Betts are both 26 I think or Betts may be 27 but Portis will be 26 on September 1st and Steve Smith is only 5'9" and arguably the best reciever in the league. He and Santana Moss have proven (especially in 2005) that you dont need to be a tall reciever to be productive.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
Here's my list of most needed to least.

1. DL or OL (depending on the best player aval)
2. WR
3. DL or OL
4. TE
5. OL
6.DL
7. WR

Ideally best available in all rounds but we have needs

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-20-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
Chris Cooley is our Red Zone threat down the middle

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-20-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
Here is my list:

1. DE in particular.
2. another DE
3. A DT to put in the rotation

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
But more Defense. Don't you think we should at least try to worry about a big WR? Cooley can't do it all the time. I'm sure JC would appreciate another weapon. I don't see this Offense doing much so far. And to be honset they didn't show us anything better last year.

Our D looks great but I don't want to see another peformance like 04 offense.
Granted I really don't think we are looking at anything that bad this year but another Art Monk type guy would be a great fit here.

SmootSmack 08-20-2007 06:30 PM

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You know what I'd like? If we could just talk about this upcoming season, instead of jumping ahead to what should we do next off-season.

Jeez, Mike Espy goes down and suddenly everyone wants to throw in the towel on 2007?

GusFrerotte 08-20-2007 06:38 PM

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I have been bitching about the almost total reliance on FA acquisitions since the Bruce Smith, Andre Reed and Deion debacle. We gave up too many draft picks since Spurrier to get these geezers or washed up guys that simply don't pan out. Just look at members of our D line as a current example. WE have kicked ass with the draft as long as we haven't given up first and second rounders. Go all the way to Lavar and Samuels, Champ, Smooty, ST, Rocky has come on strong now, and now Landry. I hope Blades really develops for us also. We can have a killer LB corp again!!!!!! Only two FA acquisitions that have truly panned out for us in the last few years was Santana and Flethcher. MB did help us, but I think in hindsight I rather would have stuck with Patrick. Still think Patrick could have salvaged the 2004 season for us if Gibbs put him in 4-5 weeks sooner.

Skinsfan1967 08-20-2007 06:39 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;342027]You know what I'd like? If we could just talk about this upcoming season, instead of jumping ahead to what should we do next off-season.

Jeez, Mike Espy goes down and suddenly everyone wants to throw in the
towel on 2007?[/QUOTE]

A point well made. I can't think of a better way to say it.

firstdown 08-20-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Gibbs and Building by the Draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;342027]You know what I'd like? If we could just talk about this upcoming season, instead of jumping ahead to what should we do next off-season.

Jeez, Mike Espy goes down and suddenly everyone wants to throw in the towel on 2007?[/quote]
Oh, Smotty the draft talk for next year is very important and you should not attack people for wanting to discuss this very pressing issue. Do you think that we should wait until the end of the season and then look at our needs and then decide on the draft? This FO always waits until the last minute.

Mattyk 08-20-2007 06:40 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;342027]You know what I'd like? If we could just talk about this upcoming season, instead of jumping ahead to what should we do next off-season.[/quote]

Seriously... I can't believe I'm reading posts on needs for next year already. :doh:


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