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Skins_4_Lyfe 08-20-2007 09:29 PM

Cerrato, Most Improved...
 
[COLOR=black]With all the talk last year about Vinny Cerrato being on a short leash, do you think that he finally got off his ass and did some homework. So far it appears as if this is one of the strongest drat classes that I've seen since he's been here. Thatís saying a lot considering the fact that we entered the draft with only one day-one pick. Landry, Blades, Palmer, and even Heyer (along with a couple undrafted rookies; Westbrook and Marcus Mason) all appear to have a future in this league. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Is this a coincidence or could all the speculation be responsible for Vinny's apparent improvement.[/COLOR]

70Chip 08-20-2007 10:21 PM

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I don't know what Vinny does exactly so it's difficult to make a judgement. When he was re-hired, Snyder said he wanted someone to yell at in the owner's box during the game, and I don't think he was joking. I guess he does Snyder's bidding and has pro-forma meetings with Gibbs or whatever but I don't know that he has any power himself. He's a proxy for Snyder in the building so that Snyder doesn't have to actually loom over the Park in an un-ownerly way. That's my take anyway.

KLHJ2 08-20-2007 10:54 PM

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I wouldn't give Vinny the credit for the UFA's, I think that was more on the Scouts and Coaches. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

saden1 08-20-2007 10:59 PM

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I don't think anyone knows what Cerrato does. In any case, we've only had a handful picks in the past few year's and those high round picks are paying off as expected. The only mid rounder paying off is Golston and we haven't see much from our free agent acquisitions either.

skinsfan69 08-20-2007 11:01 PM

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;342101][COLOR=black]With all the talk last year about Vinny Cerrato being on a short leash, do you think that he finally got off his ass and did some homework. So far it appears as if this is one of the strongest drat classes that I've seen since he's been here. Thatís saying a lot considering the fact that we entered the draft with only one day-one pick. Landry, Blades, Palmer, and even Heyer (along with a couple undrafted rookies; Westbrook and Marcus Mason) all appear to have a future in this league. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Is this a coincidence or could all the speculation be responsible for Vinny's apparent improvement.[/COLOR][/quote]

We won't know if this is a strong draft/FA class until a year or two.

BDBohnzie 08-21-2007 09:39 AM

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Cerrato is Danny's Yes man. Nothing more. He's his cabana boy when he doesn't want to have to sit thru meeting after meeting.

Skinny Tee 08-21-2007 10:05 AM

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;342101][COLOR=black]Thatís saying a lot considering the fact that we entered the draft with only one day-one pick. Landry, Blades, Palmer, and even Heyer (along with a couple undrafted rookies; Westbrook and Marcus Mason) all appear to have a future in this league.[/COLOR][/quote]


Why is it that every year people seem to think that the bottom round and undrafted picks are going to make the team? What futures do these guys have? Other than Landry all these guys are going to be lottery lucky just to make the practice squad.

Give up trying to hype up the low level draft picks thinking that they are going to be a factor in the upcoming season. It's not going to happen. If you want these guys to be factors on your season you should consider taking up Madden, you then will be satiated.

Drift Reality 08-21-2007 10:18 AM

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe;342101][COLOR=black]With all the talk last year about Vinny Cerrato being on a short leash, do you think that he finally got off his ass and did some homework. So far it appears as if this is one of the strongest drat classes that I've seen since he's been here. Thatís saying a lot considering the fact that we entered the draft with only one day-one pick. Landry, Blades, Palmer, and even Heyer (along with a couple undrafted rookies; Westbrook and Marcus Mason) all appear to have a future in this league. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Is this a coincidence or could all the speculation be responsible for Vinny's apparent improvement.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Guy,

Lets not even think about talking about the draft class for a couple of years.

Landry looks like a solid pick but there is no reason in hell we should be talking about any of those other guys. They haven't done one thing yet.

Lets be honest here - we are still talking about a guy who is not a competent personnel person in the NFL. Furthermore, I don't think he has any real power within the organization. Most of the decisions are made through Gibbs.

If we had a competent GM we wouldn't be starting an undrafted FA at LT and journeyman at LG protecting our franchise quarterback and opening holes for our franchise RB.

Drift Reality 08-21-2007 10:21 AM

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Ironically, I was about to start a thread about how concerned I am that our front office continues to patch one hole and neglect another.

This year, it looks like they may have created depth in the secondary only to neglect the offensive line.

Mark my words - the offensive line will be a problem all season long. Then, next year, they will go out and patch up the line and it will just be another area on the team -

This is going to continue until we bring in a GM who can structure a 5-year personnel plan, not a coalition of coaches and executives who cobble together incremental 1-year plans.

Bstanley 08-21-2007 10:30 AM

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Cerrato does allot more then you guys think he does nice guy to. Ive talked to the him many times he knows what hes doing.

Mattyk 08-21-2007 10:37 AM

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[quote=Drift Reality;342250]Ironically, I was about to start a thread about how concerned I am that our front office continues to patch one hole and neglect another.

This year, it looks like they may have created depth in the secondary only to neglect the offensive line.

Mark my words - the offensive line will be a problem all season long. Then, next year, they will go out and patch up the line and it will just be another area on the team -

This is going to continue until we bring in a GM who can structure a 5-year personnel plan, not a coalition of coaches and executives who cobble together incremental 1-year plans.[/quote]

That's life in the NFL, show me one NFL team that has solid depth across the board with no weaknesses. It's nearly impossible to shore up every position each year.

I really think people are really overreacting about the offensive line.

Drift Reality 08-21-2007 11:49 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;342267]That's life in the NFL, show me one NFL team that has solid depth across the board with no weaknesses. It's nearly impossible to shore up every position each year.

I really think people are really overreacting about the offensive line.[/QUOTE]

Hmm...yes, but you can build depth at different positions. In my opinion, OL is the most important position to build depth - that is the foundation of any team.

The thing that stumps me is that the Redskins throughout the 80s always had a deep line with top-tier starters...

skinsfan69 08-21-2007 12:16 PM

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[quote=Bstanley;342259]Cerrato does allot more then you guys think he does nice guy to. Ive talked to the him many times he knows what hes doing.[/quote]

Say what?

SmootSmack 08-21-2007 12:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality;342333]The thing that stumps me is that the Redskins throughout the 80s always had a deep line with top-tier starters...[/QUOTE]

Completely different era. Free agency and salary caps weren't really around back then.


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