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Mattyk 08-23-2007 11:34 AM

Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Greenberg: 8-8

Golic: 6-10

John Seibel: 5-11

They basically said the D isn't very good, and they had concerns about Campbell not being ready for prime time.

I think they haven't watched our first team D this preseason.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-23-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Screw Mike and Mike.

hooskins 08-23-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Was this just this morning? You are probably right about them not watching us this preseason. I am pretty sure they just looked at our team last year and went with their gut. That is why most of these national sportswriters say stuff that always leaves you scratching your head.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-23-2007 11:38 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Every time we come in as underdogs (2005) we always over achieve.

saden1 08-23-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Come on folks, these guys know what they are talking about. Some even say they have a direct line to god.

Chief X_Phackter 08-23-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
This is fine with me. I'm not sure I care what these guys are saying. Most of the time they are just filling airspace with their hot air anyway. I'd rather everyone underestimate us at the beginning.

Manusky91 08-23-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
I was pretty disappointed hearing them predict such a grim season for the skins.

Hog1 08-23-2007 11:49 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
I have yet to hear anyone give the Skins any love. I don't like to hear it, but, it works for me. Better to be the dog!
I think we will surprise some folks, and I love that!

Drift Reality 08-23-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Most sports analysts are idiots. They simply look at the record the team posted the previous year and then extrapolate from that. I think very few actually go out on a limb and attempt to project something controversial.

It is so cliche - I'm sure none of these guys have watched the Skins play yet in the pre-season.

That being said, I still think their o-line is going to really be an achilles heel for them this year and probably prevent them from being a special team.

hooskins 08-23-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
[quote=saden1;343035]Come on folks, these guys know they are talking about. Some even say they have a direct line to god.[/quote]

I mean seriously wouldn't you think these guys would feel reports like this violate their professional ethics as sportswriters? These guys are pretty much at the top of sports radio through hard work and good reporting, and yet it seems they don't really do any research and just go with their gut. Atleast see what our offseason moves and preseason stats are. And if they really think our D will be bad they should atleast mention the fact that our starting D looks good so far.

Daseal 08-23-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
I realize our defense was absolutely TERRIBLE last year, but that's more of an exception rather than a rule with Gwilliams. All that said, I can see where people will be very skeptical of us.

BigSKINBauer 08-23-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Last year i cared for rankings. The year before i did too and the year before that and so on. I don't really care anymore. Pre-season rankings suck.


Much of the reason i don't care is because if someone is not give us respect, this year, i can understand it. We sucked last year and that is what we are going to get. I know i know more about the skins than golic does so why do i care what he thinks.

I'll care when i don't understand the lack of respect. Like if we make the playoffs this year and next year at this time we get 7-9 predictions.

JoeRedskin 08-23-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
Just play ball. I think we will do well, I hope we will. It's fun to prove the talking heads wrong (<cough> Sean Salisbury <cough>)

Otherwise, I only care what the media heads say about the Skins when they justify my fanaticism and feed my need to feel superior b/c of the team I back.

If they fail to worship the Skins - regardless of the team's prior missteps, they are simply meaningless hacks with no in-depth knowledge of the Skins' and whose biased Skin bashing is:

1) Evidence of an obsessive homerism for some other less worthy team;

2) Merely a repetition of the opinion of some other nationally syndicated talking heads who haven't done anything in-depth on the Skins; [I]or[/I]

3) based on unabashed hatred for a) Daniel Snyder and his "fantasy football" ways; b) Joe Gibbs and his "Christian Core Redskins"; 3) Art Monk (see how all the conspiracies tie in nicely?).

#56fanatic 08-23-2007 12:22 PM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
what would you like these guys to say. what would be the right thing for you all? 11-5, 12-4, deep playoff run?? come on, be real. I HOPE we go 10-6, 11-5 but realistically can we feel confident is saying that. the norm for this franchise the past 10 years has been sub 500. the exception has been two playoff seasons since 99. The analysts have been somewhat correct in picking where we stand in the NFL for the last 5 or 6 six seasons. These guys have played in the NFL, eat, sleep, and shit football. I dont like to hear sub 500 predictions anymore than you guys, but what have we done lately to prove anyone wrong. the D is a question I dont care how well we play in the preseason. It stunk last year, we made no improvements up front, which has not been good the last two years. Only reason no one mentioned it in 2005 was because we got pressure from other areas. so, upfront we are still the same line as last year. offensively, Campbell is a first year starter, you never know what can happen. he came in last year with no pressure, now he has all the pressure in the world on him. people play differently under different situations related to the amount of pressure they have on them.
You all can't sit here and call them idiots because they dont say things you think you should hear. bottom line, we have not done anything in the past 8+ years to warrant positive feedback from the analysts.

Longtimefan 08-23-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins
 
I hope we use the low expectations as motivation. There's nothing in many of these so called analysis petigree that makes them know any more than we do. There are some very knowledgeable people here on this forum, and I value the judgements here just as much (if not more) than I do these guys. They can do a good job at influencing those who have limited insight into the game. Most knowledgeable people have enough creative insight to formulate their own opinions, that's why I render most of their rhetoric useless.


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