Is Kurt Warner back?
 

Did anyone happen to see Kurt Warner come off the bench and almost pull one out against Baltimore? I still say if he has the time to throw, he is one of the best pure passers in the NFL. I was personally happy for the guy. I always liked Warner. Class guy. Hope he gets the start next week.

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Trouble is if he doesn't have all day to throw he makes bad decisions and/or fumbles.

He had a good run back in the day but he's not starting material anymore.

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agree with matt here...
Matt L is the future there...

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[quote=skinsfan69;356542]Did anyone happen to see Kurt Warner come off the bench and almost pull one out against Baltimore? I still say if he has the time to throw, he is one of the best pure passers in the NFL. I was personally happy for the guy. I always liked Warner. Class guy. Hope he gets the start next week.[/quote]Kurt Warner never really "left" per say. Since he left the cocoon that was the Rams offense, he's been grossly underrated. He was good on the Giants, and he looked good both seasons prior to this on the Cards. His fumbling issues have done him in, but QB fumbles are directly related to the guys in front of him.

He probably still gives them a better chance to win now than Leinart does although I really like Leinart and think he will be very very good.

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[quote=GTripp0012;356639]
He probably still gives them a better chance to win now than Leinart does although I really like Leinart and think he will be very very good.[/quote]

Why? because he won NCAA championships at USC, the school where you are surrounded with talent in every position. I never thought he was that good, he gets scared and becomes very inaccurate with pressure.

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Need my 10th post! Sorry :o)

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[quote=GTripp0012;356639]Kurt Warner never really "left" per say. Since he left the cocoon that was the Rams offense, he's been grossly underrated. He was good on the Giants, and he looked good both seasons prior to this on the Cards. His fumbling issues have done him in, but QB fumbles are directly related to the guys in front of him.

He probably still gives them a better chance to win now than Leinart does although I really like Leinart and think he will be very very good.[/quote]
Very true but when the protection breaks down it then becomes the QB's job to protect the ball and he just seemed to drop the balls at the worst times. I think we beat him in a game where he dropped a ball and we recovered for a TD.

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[quote=TheBigD;356646]Why? because he won NCAA championships at USC, the school where you are surrounded with talent in every position. I never thought he was that good, he gets scared and becomes very inaccurate with pressure.[/quote]I see. Maybe he should retire then?

He completed a lot of passes in college and had a good rookie year relative to Young and Culter. What more do you want of him at this stage in his career?

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[quote=GTripp0012;357549]I see. Maybe he should retire then?

He completed a lot of passes in college and had a good rookie year relative to Young and Culter. What more do you want of him at this stage in his career?[/quote]

I don't know, but when you look at a QB, you can tell how confident he is and see signs of potential. I can't see any of that in that guy.

Are you serious? you compare him to Young who is going to be 10 times better than him. Just because you were good, or even great some might argue, in college that doesn't mean much in the NFL with bigger, tougher, and quicker defenses. There are plenty of #1 picks or first rounders that couldn't hack it.

Anyways, we know now that they both will be playing.

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The Cards are too heavily invested in Leinart. They were getting killed by a great D and didn't want to damage their young QB's psyche. Leinart would have to go through a "Rex-like" stretch of games before Whisenhunt even considers benching him.

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[QUOTE=Takeuon;357531]Need my 10th post! Sorry :o)[/QUOTE]

No offense, but that smiley makes me want to punch something.

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[quote=TheBigD;357608]I don't know, but when you look at a QB, you can tell how confident he is and see signs of potential. I can't see any of that in that guy.

Are you serious? you compare him to Young who is going to be 10 times better than him. Just because you were good, or even great some might argue, in college that doesn't mean much in the NFL with bigger, tougher, and quicker defenses. There are plenty of #1 picks or first rounders that couldn't hack it.

Anyways, we know now that they both will be playing.[/quote]

Leinart is still young but right now I think Warner gives them the best chance to win. If he had played the whole game against Balt. I bet they win the game. Warner was putting some passes right on the money like he use to. Dude can still sling it with anyone.

Vince Young just gets the job done. His passing stats are getting better too. Tenn made the right move in drafting him ahead of Leinart. Who made that pick? Wasn't it Floyd Reece? Why isn't he here?

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;357634]No offense, but that smiley makes me want to punch something.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Pretty gay.

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;357608]I don't know, but when you look at a QB, you can tell how confident he is and see signs of potential. I can't see any of that in that guy.

Are you serious? you compare him to Young who is going to be 10 times better than him. Just because you were good, or even great some might argue, in college that doesn't mean much in the NFL with bigger, tougher, and quicker defenses. There are plenty of #1 picks or first rounders that couldn't hack it.

Anyways, we know now that they both will be playing.[/QUOTE]

Young ten times better than Leinart? At what? Running the ball...cause then I'd agree, but as a QB, no way. Young threw for 2199 yards and 12 tds in 15 games. Young's comp % was only 51.5%. Leinart threw for 2547 yards, 11tds in only 12 games, and had a 56.8% comp %. That's a lot better.
Young is likely the most overrated player in the game today. Everyone thinks he's the next best thing. He's not.

About Warner...he doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. He is one of the most accurate passers in NFL history (65.7% career), but 2002 changed him. He threw for only 3 tds and 11 int's in 7 games for the Rams that year. He has shown signs of brilliance, then turned around and looked like crap. I think he still has greatness in him, but he can't be rushed. He has to have time to sit back in the pocket. When he's pressured too much, he chokes. If he could make better decisions when he's hurried / pressured, and could hold on to the ball when he's about to be sacked, he'd be great again. I think he thinks that he needs to make the play on every play, and football is more about making the most of the opportunities that present themselves, and not forcing it.

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Young really impressed me on Monday night.

He just gets it done, and as the announcers were saying he outperforms his numbers.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.