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SmootSmack 11-02-2007 11:41 AM

Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
We've all joked in recent months about the legal troubles Reid's sons have had, but it appears to be a really serious problem that's been going for several years. And didn't Goodell tell Vick back in April that he's responsible for what goes on in his house? The same should apply to Reid right?

Anyhow, with the mess that's been going on in the Reid household do you think Goodell or even Jeffrey Laurie should step in and tell Reid he needs to step down indefinitely. If you're Laurie how can you expect Reid to control the team when he can't even control his own children?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3089753]ESPN - Reid's sons ordered to jail as judge assails family - NFL[/url]

[url=http://www.nflpa.org/RulesAndRegs/ConductPolicy.aspx]NFL Players Association - Rules and Regulations - Conduct Policy[/url]

12thMan 11-02-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
I think they should keep an eye on it for sure. But this is sticky situation, because it's his personal life. Supposed he was going through an ugly divorce would that be reason enough for him to step down? Probably not.

SmootSmack 11-02-2007 11:48 AM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
Except a divorce isn't criminal activity

BDBohnzie 11-02-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
Slippery slope here. Andy Reid is not the one directly linked to the criminal activity, whereas Vick was.

The control of his own children argument doesn't hold water, as his children are grown, and presumably on their own. As they are adults, they should be seen as their own men, and not Andy's sons.

I don't see Jeffrey Lurie doing anything but supporting his guy. Reid's in his 8th season as Eagles Head Coach, and they've had a good run under Reid. I don't see Lurie rocking the boat.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-02-2007 11:56 AM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
I don't know what Andy Reid should do since it sounds like his kids cannot be helped. Anyone who gets a kick out of being privileged, going to bad neighborhoods, and getting people hooked on Oxycontin is a miserable, pathetic human being. That said, I would make an effort and step down as head coach. I don't think I would be able to function if my kids were doing that kind of stuff.

As for the NFL and the Eagles' ownership, I would say that they shouldn't [I]force[/I] him to step down.

SouperMeister 11-02-2007 12:01 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
I don't see how stepping down will help at this point. Both sons are going to jail, so stepping down now would be too little, too late. Beside, we're talking adult children here. If I was screwing up in my 20's I would NEVER expect my father to walk away from his responsibilities. It's time for the Reid boys to buck up and take responsibility for their actions.

MTK 11-02-2007 12:01 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
I really feel bad for Reid.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him resign at the end of the season. It's really an unfortunate and tragic situation for him and his family.

MTK 11-02-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;372594]We've all joked in recent months about the legal troubles Reid's sons have had, but it appears to be a really serious problem that's been going for several years. And didn't Goodell tell Vick back in April that he's responsible for what goes on in his house? The same should apply to Reid right?

Anyhow, with the mess that's been going on in the Reid household do you think Goodell or even Jeffrey Laurie should step in and tell Reid he needs to step down indefinitely. [B]If you're Laurie how can you expect Reid to control the team when he can't even control his own children[/B]?

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3089753"]ESPN - Reid's sons ordered to jail as judge assails family - NFL[/URL]

[URL="http://www.nflpa.org/RulesAndRegs/ConductPolicy.aspx"]NFL Players Association - Rules and Regulations - Conduct Policy[/URL][/quote]

I don't think one has anything to do with another.

Unfortunately as a NFL head coach these guys don't have much quality home time 7 months out of the year, and even the offseason has turned into a full time job. He probably has a much better handle on the team vs. his own family sadly enough.

saden1 11-02-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
Wow, hope he leaves after season and be ready to be a father to his kids when they get out. I mean, it looks like Andy doesn't know a single damn thing about his kids.

sbaughone 11-02-2007 12:05 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
Hell no. That fat loser should stay there and watch the rest of his career go down the toilet. It's so funny...three years ago dumbass jeff lurie said the eagels were the "gold standard" as to how you build a team. They sucked then, and they still suck.

SmootSmack 11-02-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;372598]Slippery slope here. Andy Reid is not the one directly linked to the criminal activity, whereas Vick was.

The control of his own children argument doesn't hold water, as his children are grown, and presumably on their own. As they are adults, they should be seen as their own men, and not Andy's sons.

I don't see Jeffrey Lurie doing anything but supporting his guy. Reid's in his 8th season as Eagles Head Coach, and they've had a good run under Reid. I don't see Lurie rocking the boat.[/QUOTE]

But when Goodell made those comments to Vick he didn't know Vick was directly involved. Still I see your points overall

I was actually curious if from a legal standpoint the NFL has any ground to stand on to suspend Reid? SGG, I'm looking in your direction.

I do feel bad for Reid. I think my bigger concern is not his two oldest sons his three other children (all under age 18). He can't let them slip away too. Not being a parent myself I don't know what's the right way to handle this quite honestly.

Southpaw 11-02-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
The only reason for Reid to step down at this point is to try to keep his family business out of the spotlight. One of his douchebag kids is 24. What can he honestly do? It can be said that his kids turning out like they did is partially his fault, but again, they're adults now. It's beyond his responsibility, and he shouldn't have to give up his livelyhood because of them.

jamf 11-02-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
They are grown men who happen be the sons of a football coach. I hope they get treated like every other junkie on the streets.

724Skinsfan 11-02-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid step down after the season. He'll be welcomed back into the NFL easily whenever he decides to return so it's not like he's giving up his dream job forever.

The whole issue about the NFL suspending doesn't make much sense to me. He's not guilty of any criminal behavior nor advocating criminal behavior. I might consider otherwise if there was a taped phone conversation in which Reid is saying "Sold anymore drugs to kids? Great! That's my boy. That's how you make your money. Keep it up. Just like I taught you."

Monkeydad 11-02-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;372597]Except a divorce isn't criminal activity[/quote]

Yeah, if the NFL didn't care about Belichick taking part in an adultery with a married woman who later divorced her husband over it, they won't care about Reid simply getting a mutually agreed-upon divorce with his own wife.


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