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hooskins 11-18-2007 08:57 PM

2 Qualms with the loss
 
1) Not going for it on 4th and 1 and missing that 50 yarder. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I felt we really should have thought about that with a "nothing to lose" attitude.

2)Giving up FOUR long bombs to TO, 3 of them were pretty much the exact same play. I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. I really wouldn't mind Witten or Crayton getting a big TD over the middle, but you can't leave TO that open so many times. This really falls on GW. I am sure with ST back that will be less of an issue, but still it is unacceptable.

Point two really hurts me just because I know GW is better than that. On a whole I am just hurt because I know we could have won the game. My hat is off to JC for an awesome game and for Saunders/Gibbs for growing a pair and letting JC do more in the offense. We should run no-huddle more in beginning of the game.


Also please NO Debbie-downers. I do not mean for this to be a pessimistic thread. No "Gibbs/GW should be fired" "we suck" etc etc. And if you want to mention another point, just back it up. I will negative reputation the hell out of you guys if you ruin this thread by being pessimistic and posting crap :). That is all.

jsarno 11-18-2007 09:01 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
Well, we stayed away from shooting ourselves in the foot for the most part, minus that pass interferance penalty. We could have beat a better team because of it. Can't really complain about injuries, shit happens.

CPAlltheWay012 11-18-2007 09:02 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
I'm gonna get alot of heat.. BUT I don't blame the coaches for the skins' loss...

instead:

Campbell: key interception late in the game which basically lost it for us..
Suisham: missing the field goal that would have made the deficit 2 points (and we would have kicked a field goal..
Secondary: Player mistakes NOT the scheme led TO to a big game..

Cowell 11-18-2007 09:03 PM

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Yeah with the exception of the 50 yard attempt I have no problems with how the coaches managed the game. In fact I thought they managed the clock exceptionally.

hooskins 11-18-2007 09:04 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[quote=CPAlltheWay012;379993]I'm gonna get alot of heat.. BUT I don't blame the coaches for the skins' loss...

instead:

Campbell: key interception late in the game which basically lost it for us..
Suisham: missing the field goal that would have made the deficit 2 points (and we would have kicked a field goal..
[B] Secondary: Player mistakes NOT the scheme led TO to a big game..[/B][/quote]

Please elaborate, because to me, the coaches fall for this one for letting 1 player beat your deep 4 times. Unacceptable. Why not double him with a safety at all times? Sure it leaves others open, but by that point you have to pick your poision, and if the goal of the defensive gameplan is to stop TO I would say GW got a F.

hooskins 11-18-2007 09:06 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[quote=Cowell;379996]Yeah with the exception of the 50 yard attempt I have no problems with how the coaches managed the game. In fact I thought they managed the clock exceptionally.[/quote]

I don't think clock management was too bad. I just wish we went for it on, rather than kicking a tough FG. It was 1 yard and we have to play Dallas with an "all-in" mentality.

wilsowilso 11-18-2007 09:06 PM

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[quote=hooskins;379985]1) I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. [/quote]

Decent would be a real big upgrade. Decent pro athletes if our safties other than Landry deserve this distinction make big money and when they look this bad I honestly think the should be deducted one paycheck for sucking. IMO.

wilsowilso 11-18-2007 09:07 PM

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Oh and like I posted plenty in the game thread we played very good today mostly.

hooskins 11-18-2007 09:10 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[quote=wilsowilso;380002]Decent would be a real big upgrade. Decent pro athletes if our safties other than Landry deserve this distinction [B]make big money and when they look this bad I honestly think the should be deducted one paycheck for sucking. [/B]IMO.[/quote]

I agree, if I were a manager I would so do that. Then again, no one is going to want to play for me lol...

skinsfaninok 11-18-2007 09:11 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
Dallas is just on fire right now, but i do think if we had ST we would have won! JC looks better and better every game

hooskins 11-18-2007 09:15 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
I'm still struggling with the whole "if ST was back" reasoning. I do think he would have helped the secondary, but I still think it is an excuse. how can a coach let the same player be wide open, and beat us the same way 3 times? If someone can convince me not to be upset at GW, go for it because I am trying damn hard.

jdlea 11-18-2007 09:16 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;379985]1) Not going for it on 4th and 1 and missing that 50 yarder. I guess hindsight is 50/50, but I felt we really should have thought about that with a "nothing to lose" attitude.
[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I'm pretty sure hindsight is 20/20...

Gmanc711 11-18-2007 09:16 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
The one and only coaching call I didnt like was the feild goal of 50 yards. I said before the play started that we should either go for it, or punt it away. Again like you said hindsight is 20/20, but that was one that I really didnt like before and after the fact. I mean, were going to have bad plays/calls every game, so it is what it is. They're a very good football team...that was the type of effort I wanted to see against New England.

hooskins 11-18-2007 09:18 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[quote=jdlea;380015]I agree, but I'm pretty sure hindsight is 20/20...[/quote]

lol sorry, fixed it. You know what I meant though.

jdlea 11-18-2007 09:19 PM

Re: 2 Qualms with the loss
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;379985]2)Giving up FOUR long bombs to TO, 3 of them were pretty much the exact same play. I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. I really wouldn't mind Witten or Crayton getting a big TD over the middle, but you can't leave TO that open so many times. This really falls on GW. I am sure with ST back that will be less of an issue, but still it is unacceptable.

Point two really hurts me just because I know GW is better than that. On a whole I am just hurt because I know we could have won the game. My hat is off to JC for an awesome game and for Saunders/Gibbs for growing a pair and letting JC do more in the offense. We should run no-huddle more in beginning of the game.


Also please NO Debbie-downers. I do not mean for this to be a pessimistic thread. No "Gibbs/GW should be fired" "we suck" etc etc. And if you want to mention another point, just back it up. I will negative reputation the hell out of you guys if you ruin this thread by being pessimistic and posting crap :). That is all.[/QUOTE]

In addition, they said on the air that Gregg Williams stressed taking away TO. If that's his idea of taking a player away...I'm not sure what to say.

I, personally, don't feel that Gregg Williams should be the next head coach of this team. I'm not sure that he should be the D Coordinator next year. I think he's overrated. He came up with terrible gameplans today, against the Pats and against the Eagles. I don't like the way he deploys his defense and I think they've been garbage the last few weeks because of him.


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