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jdlea 11-25-2007 03:19 PM

4th and short
 
I don't know how it will effect the outcome of the game, and I do know that I have said this team needs to be more aggressive, but damnit, you take the points there. Don't take 3 off the board when you could have made a one possession game. That was just a terrible decision by Joe Gibbs! I cannot believe that call. Also, if you were going to go, you don't hand to a back w/o Sellers, you have to run the sneak.

BigSKINBauer 11-25-2007 03:22 PM

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whatever, it caused them to be backed up and led to a three and out. We took a chance. It didn't pay off. I'll live. We should have been able to get a foot. A TD would have been huge.

jdlea 11-25-2007 03:23 PM

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Yeah, a field goal would have been too, then it would be a TD game. Have faith in your defense!

MTK 11-25-2007 03:24 PM

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Gibbs is putting it all on the line today.

I didn't hate the decision. We've been blasting him all year for not being aggressive.

jdlea 11-25-2007 03:26 PM

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I would prefer some selective aggression, that turnover on downs keeps this thing at a 2 possession game, a FG makes it 1 possession. I was screaming as soon as the call was made.

BigSKINBauer 11-25-2007 03:26 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;382147]Gibbs is putting it all on the line today.

I didn't hate the decision. We've been blasting him all year for not being aggressive.[/quote]
exactly and i think the media has gotten to him. I think he feels he has to take shots like that or else he would be criticized after the game for being too soft.

jdlea 11-25-2007 03:27 PM

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However, I do have to say that if he was really serious about the whole "being more physical than the Bucs" thing, then it shows a tremendous amount of faith in his team. I like the leadership, unfortunately, I still hated the call

MTK 11-25-2007 03:32 PM

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;382158]exactly and i think the media has gotten to him. I think he feels he has to take shots like that or else he would be criticized after the game.[/quote]

Nah, I just think he sees the season on the line, if there was a time to go balls out today is the day

BigSKINBauer 11-25-2007 03:37 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;382190]Nah, I just think he sees the season on the line, if there was a time to go balls out today is the day[/quote]

Agreed but i still think that the media haggling im after every game is going to effect what he does. He gets questioned more than most coaches. I just can't see that not effecting him in the games. When he gets into the press conferences, you can see that he takes a defensive position and knows that questions about his play calls will come up. I can definitely see gibbs thinking about what people will think during the games because it is surrounding him all week long.

hurrykaine 11-25-2007 03:38 PM

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Nice decision to go for it on 4th. Play call sucked though - JC should've QB sneaked it.

Daseal 11-25-2007 03:43 PM

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Im totally with hurrykaine. Gotta go with a QB sneak there, not an uber predictable run to the *gasp* left. I like the aggressive nature of the call.

MTK 11-25-2007 03:48 PM

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I think they were looking for the sneak in that situation, either way it doesn't change the fact we now have 5 turnovers. It's awfully tough to win when you turnover the ball that much.

Daseal 11-25-2007 03:55 PM

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Well Matty, when you need a feet, they can look for the sneak. A big QB like Campbell can fall forward for that, and if anything they will kinda give him the benefit of the doubt with it muddled

mheisig 11-25-2007 04:00 PM

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I'm totally behind him on all the 4th down calls. Yeah someone's gonna bitch cause we didn't make one and hingsight's 20-20, but our season and playoff hopes are on the line and we're trailing by quite a bit, go for the throat and try for that TD. At least if we go down in flames we'll know we tried to win it.

jdlea 11-25-2007 04:08 PM

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[QUOTE=mheisig;382376]I'm totally behind him on all the 4th down calls. Yeah someone's gonna bitch cause we didn't make one and hingsight's 20-20, but our season and playoff hopes are on the line and we're trailing by quite a bit, go for the throat and try for that TD. At least if we go down in flames we'll know we tried to win it.[/QUOTE]

Oh please, there was no hindsight about it, I knew it was a bad call regardless. I hated the call before the play, I hated the playcall and I hate the fact that I forced them to press when they should have been looking to get into field goal range at the end of the game. It totally changed the football game and all they needed to do was kick. The first time I've wanted them to be conservative all year and take the points to make a 1 possession game, they stupidly try to run and it contributed to the loss of the game.


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