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Mattyk 12-13-2007 10:33 AM

The Mitchell report
 
Let's discuss it here, if anyone even cares.

Should be interesting to see the names but I'm not sure what it will accomplish at this point.

Schneed10 12-13-2007 10:35 AM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
I'm numb to steroids in baseball. Couldn't care less. I think my outrage hamster is way too tired from running in his outrage wheel for like five years straight.

Let em all take roids, I don't care. I'm just sick of hearing about it.

jamf 12-13-2007 11:35 AM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
I want to see names!

But like matty said, I don't think it will accomplish much.

Mattyk 12-13-2007 11:44 AM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
[quote=Schneed10;392662]I'm numb to steroids in baseball. Couldn't care less. I think my outrage hamster is way too tired from running in his outrage wheel for like five years straight.

Let em all take roids, I don't care. I'm just sick of hearing about it.[/quote]

I'm really tired of it too. If anything, maybe this report will put the issue to bed.

Who am I kidding? This will probably keep dragging on and on. :doh:

What annoys me in all this are the "baseball purists" that think the game and any records during that time are now tainted. Maybe it was to a degree, but get with the times, athletes in all sports will seek any competitive advantage they possibly can get away with.

Redskin Rich 12-13-2007 12:13 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
ESPN reported that Roger Clemmons name will be on the list. I think it will help Barry Bonds a little... but Bonds was an ass before the steroids, so people will hate him anyway.

DynamiteRave 12-13-2007 12:13 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
NEW YORK (AP) -- Seven-time Cy Young Award winner Roger Clemens and Yankees pitcher Andy Pettitte were the first names to emerge Thursday from the Mitchell report.

Figures. Pack of cheaters they are. Boo Yanks!

FRPLG 12-13-2007 12:19 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
I think everyone is going to finally see how many PITCHERS were juicing too. For so long the focus was on hitters but people in the know always remarked how the steroids probably benefitted pitchers even more.

BleedBurgundy 12-13-2007 12:27 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
I hate baseball, so whatever contributes to its downfall is fine with me. Personally, I never understand how so many people had such strong feelings for such a boring ass game. Now, if the NBA can just have similar misfortune, we can worry about getting more soccer coverage stateside!

Daseal 12-13-2007 12:30 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
Im not a fan of baseball, but I can't wait to see the names on there. Im just hoping its not rehashing the same people, I want to see some big names, but people I wasn't expecting!

BleedBurgundy 12-13-2007 12:32 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
Agreed. Bigger they are, harder they fall! Schadenfreude all around!

BDBohnzie 12-13-2007 01:51 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
This is just Selig's way of pushing blame from his office onto the players and teams. It's incredibly ridiculous how extensive this got. Instead of going into the past, he should have been busier trying to correct the problem going forward. Selig is the guy at the top, and instead of sharing the blame, he's pointing the finger at everyone else.

And what does this report tell us? That a number of players, including those not listed in the report, did steroids or HGH at some point in their careers. At this point, who cares? It's over and done with, and since you cannot go back and test everyone at important points in their career, why waste time figuring out the past, when you can correct it going forward.

I'm still convinced baseball turned a blind eye to the abuse to counter-act the strike and bring the fans back into the seats with 20 game winners that throw 98 mph, or guys who before couldn't hit water falling out of a boat figured out how to hit many long balls for one magical season (yes I'm talking about you Brady Anderson). And now that it became a hot button issue, they are making a big deal out of it and selling out those who "took one for the team." It's a load of bullshit if you ask me.

All parties (Commissioner, Teams, Players) are to blame, however the scapegoats will be listed on this report, and the game will finally be able to move on.

BleedBurgundy 12-13-2007 02:05 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
[url]http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/12/13/mitchell.report.pdf[/url]

That's the link to the .pdf of the Mitchell Report

SmootSmack 12-13-2007 02:21 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;392742]This is just Selig's way of pushing blame from his office onto the players and teams. It's incredibly ridiculous how extensive this got. Instead of going into the past, he should have been busier trying to correct the problem going forward. Selig is the guy at the top, and instead of sharing the blame, he's pointing the finger at everyone else.

And what does this report tell us? That a number of players, including those not listed in the report, did steroids or HGH at some point in their careers. At this point, who cares? It's over and done with, and since you cannot go back and test everyone at important points in their career, why waste time figuring out the past, when you can correct it going forward.

I'm still convinced baseball turned a blind eye to the abuse to counter-act the strike and bring the fans back into the seats with 20 game winners that throw 98 mph, or guys who before couldn't hit water falling out of a boat figured out how to hit many long balls for one magical season (yes I'm talking about you Brady Anderson). And now that it became a hot button issue, they are making a big deal out of it and selling out those who "took one for the team." It's a load of bullshit if you ask me.

All parties (Commissioner, Teams, Players) are to blame, however the scapegoats will be listed on this report, and the game will finally be able to move on.[/QUOTE]

Very well put. My sentiments exactly

BDBohnzie 12-13-2007 02:30 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
Here is what I pulled from the Report that knowingly purchased either anabolics or HGH from one distributor (Names in bold are more well known):
[b]Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust[/b]
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
[b]Hal Morris[/b]
Matt Franco
[b]Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice[/b]
F.P. Santangelo
[b]Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle[/b]
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
[b]Todd Pratt[/b]
Kevin Young
[b]Mike Lansing[/b]
Cody McKay
[b]Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada[/b]
Jason Christiansen
[b]Mike Stanton[/b]
Stephen Randolph
[b]Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca[/b]
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
[b]Kevin Brown
Eric Gagné[/b]
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
[b]Howie Clark
Nook Logan[/b]

Here is the list of those who [I][B]allegedly[/B][/I] made internet purchases:
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Darren Holmes
Gary Matthews, Jr.
John Rocker
Scott Schoeneweis
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard

firstdown 12-13-2007 02:45 PM

Re: The Mitchell report
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;392700]I hate baseball, so whatever contributes to its downfall is fine with me. Personally, I never understand how so many people had such strong feelings for such a boring ass game. Now, if the NBA can just have similar misfortune, we can worry about getting more soccer coverage stateside![/quote]
So you want to replace a boring sport with one that is even more boring to watch.
Was this report paid for by tax payers of MLB? I heard it cost 65mil.


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