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SmootSmack 01-08-2008 10:24 PM

Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
Because he's joining us as a moderator! j/k

Seriously though, in a strange way I feel that Gibbs' resignation is a positive step for discussions on this board. The bulk of my time here has been during Gibbs II.

And one thing that I think really affected our discussions and evaluation of Joe Gibbs is that we all had different perspectives and memories of him. Someone like Mooby isn't old enough to remember seeing live Darryl Grant highstepping into the end zone after intercepting a batted Dexter Manley pass in an NFC Championship game in front of a rocking RFK, the way Skinsguy can. Skinsguy probably doesn't remember Gibbs making his presence felt in the NFL for the first time in the early 1970s crafting a high powered St. Louis Cardinals offense, the way Backrow does.

I don't know, I guess I'm just rambling here.

But my point is, now with a new head coach we should all have a clean slate with which to evaluate him. Even if it's someone like Williams or Cowher who has experience being an NFL head coach, none of us have any emotional attachment to them as such.

That make sense?

BrudLee 01-08-2008 10:46 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

j/k

Growing up, I had an aquaintance who once stepped in and took a horrendous beating when I was getting jumped for running my mouth in high school. (I know - me, a smartass. It's a little far fetched.) Had this guy not jumped in, I'd likely not be the handsome devil typing today. I will, to this day, angrily defend his character.

Thing is, he's kind of a jackass.

I'm poigniantly aware of his flaws, but they do not outweigh the good he did for me.

There really isn't a Gibbs parallel for me here. However, maybe others will learn from my parable and spread my good word (lower-case "w").

skinsguy 01-08-2008 10:55 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
It makes sense to me SmootSmack. Whoever the next coach is, I believe we all should rally around him and support him as much as possible. I just hope the new coach will maintain continuity within the organization.

Lady Brave 01-08-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
I don't think I'll ever have as strong an emotional attachment to any other coach besides Joe. All that I ask is that if I ever go off the deep end and become as obsessed with Joe as Clutch is with George Allen, then you'll strip me of my VIP status and bid me a fond farewell.

RobH4413 01-08-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
This thread is .....(Schneed?)


No... I hear what your saying. There's no more emotional cop-outs. We actually have a consistent fan base all seeing the same thing, and we'll be able to dissect it better.

The Lord God is not longer our coach... so it won't be blasphemy anymore to critique him. It's definitly going to be a lot more fun...

skinsguy 01-08-2008 11:14 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
[QUOTE=Lady Brave;404912]I don't think I'll ever have as strong an emotional attachment to any other coach besides Joe. All that I ask is that if I ever go off the deep end and become as obsessed with Joe as Clutch is with George Allen, then you'll strip me of my VIP status and bid me a fond farewell.[/QUOTE]

Same with me Lady Brave. I grew up watching the Redskins play every Sunday, and seeing Joe Gibbs pacing the sidelines every Sunday as well. During our glory years, he was always the one constant.

MTRedskinsFan 01-08-2008 11:23 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
Insightful post and I agree w/ ya'll.

And I'm 100% for supporting our Skins going forward... coach left em in a good situation IMO. I'm saying prayers every few minutes that Danny boy doesn't do something really stupid in the weeks ahead!

NYCSkin 01-08-2008 11:33 PM

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I agree--some of us knew him as the greatest coach of alltime and expected great things again and btw, immediately. We found ourselves getting frustrated along with the folks who did not know Gibbs 1.0 as well. Gibbs' departure I think will remove some of the partisanship we have on this site when evaluating the head coach.

Ocliw 01-08-2008 11:41 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
[quote=RobH4413;404914]This thread is .....(Schneed?)


No... I hear what your saying. There's no more emotional cop-outs. We actually have a consistent fan base all seeing the same thing, and we'll be able to dissect it better.

[COLOR=Red][I][B] The Lord God is not longer our coach[/B][/I][/COLOR]... so it won't be blasphemy anymore to critique him. It's definitly going to be a lot more fun...[/quote]
What a moronic thing to say. Scratch that. Moronic is a major understatement. Flat out brain dead stupidity....I could go on for hours.

skinsfan69 01-08-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
I think too many people around here defend him no matter how bad he messes up. It's good for The Warpath. But I'm very sad to see him go. He's such a high quality human being.

mooby 01-09-2008 12:14 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
[quote=SmootSmack;404906]Because he's joining us as a moderator! j/k

Seriously though, in a strange way I feel that Gibbs' resignation is a positive step for discussions on this board. The bulk of my time here has been during Gibbs II.

And one thing that I think really affected our discussions and evaluation of Joe Gibbs is that we all had different perspectives and memories of him. Someone like Mooby isn't old enough to remember seeing live Darryl Grant highstepping into the end zone after intercepting a batted Dexter Manley pass in an NFC Championship game in front of a rocking RFK, the way Skinsguy can. Skinsguy probably doesn't remember Gibbs making his presence felt in the NFL for the first time in the early 1970s crafting a high powered St. Louis Cardinals offense, the way Backrow does.

I don't know, I guess I'm just rambling here.

But my point is, now with a new head coach we should all have a clean slate with which to evaluate him. Even if it's someone like Williams or Cowher who has experience being an NFL head coach, none of us have any emotional attachment to them as such.

That make sense?[/quote]

This message board makes me feel so damn young :/. Although I do think it will be nice to view our own coach with unbiased eyes because he hasn't led us to 3 Super Bowls in his previous stint lol.

djnemo65 01-09-2008 03:05 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
I think all of us Redskins fans - not just on this board but across the nation - have struggled to find the appropriate tone when talking about Gibbs 2.0. I think age is certainly part of it, but really it's just unclear the degree to which Gibbs contributions to the franchise weigh against the shortcomings of his second regime. Part of me always felt that he needed to be evaluated as any other coach - but how can that be, when he is the man who single-handedly put DC on the football map?

Going forward we will all be on the same page and I think that that will indeed be good for discussion.

Luxorreb 01-09-2008 04:34 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
I grew up with Gibbs as coach... 9 years old when he started and almost 21 when he finished his first tenure. Only real playoff or winning the Redskins have ever done has been under Gibbs (other than the 99 Norvel Tampa trip)... I understand him stepping down and I truly appreciate him coming back. Gibbs has given validity to the Snyder era and put us on a course for which we should all be thankful. Gone are the career 'enders' Deion, Bruce Smith. We have veterans like Godfrey, McCardell, Caldwell who are still impact players while filling the team with youth. Landry, Rogers, McIntosh, Campbell. I would bet that Joe Gibbs would grant an interview by the redskinswarpath rep in some capacity... HTTR!!! In Gibbs We Trust!

MTK 01-09-2008 10:10 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
I do understand the point behind the thread. I think there has been a bit of a divide between those that witnessed Gibbs' first run and were very loyal to him (myself included), and those that were too young during his first run and that loyalty just wasn't there and needed to be earned.

But I also think that no matter who the coach is, there is going to be those that lean more towards the supportive side and those that lean towards the less supportive side.

Bottom line, you can't make everyone happy.

BleedBurgundy 01-09-2008 10:14 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs Leaving Is Good for The Warpath
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;405057]I do understand the point behind the thread. I think there has been a bit of a divide between those that witnessed Gibbs' first run and were very loyal to him (myself included), and those that were too young during his first run and that loyalty just wasn't there and needed to be earned.

[B]But I also think that no matter who the coach is, there is going to be those that lean more towards the supportive side and those that lean towards the less supportive side. [/B]

Bottom line, you can't make everyone happy.[/QUOTE]


I'd love to be wrong, but that's what I see happening. Some of that is natural, and good for discussion's sake. But some people don't know how to separate the post from the poster. Those people suck.


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