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jsarno 01-30-2008 01:29 PM

What the hell happened?
 
I leave for Hawaii and Greg Williams is the front runner for the HC spot. I come back (and mind you I didn't watch ANY TV for the past 11 days or pick up ANY newspaper...NOTHING) and my brother calls and tells me we are interviewing Fassell. I said, nah, it's probably a formality, but I thought GW would take the HC spot...he replied, no, GW was fired. Silence. I picked my jaw up, and laughed and said, stop f-ing with me. He said they fired BOTH Saundes and GW. I really thought he was joking again. He convinced me he was telling the truth by saying that Blache was taking over at DC and Breaux was taking over at OC, then I knew he was telling the truth cause he would not have known those names.
So I ask you, warpath, what the hell happened that they BOTH get fired? I do not have the time to look up all the archives, I am piled up at work. I am going to assume this has been talked about several times over, but I saw nothing in the initial pages of WHY GW and Saunders were fired.

I leave for 11 days and the entire orginization turns to poo? What the hell? I thought we wanted to keep consistancy in the coaching staff?

BDBohnzie 01-30-2008 01:31 PM

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Dude, don't start. Just remember the lazy days of Hawaii...

Brief synopsis: GW and AS get let go, Jim Zorn and Greg Blache take their spots. Front Runners for HC include Fassel and Meeks and Cerrato and Snyder's love child.

That should have caught you up.

jsarno 01-30-2008 01:36 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;415314][b]Dude, don't start.[/b] Just remember the lazy days of Hawaii...

Brief synopsis: GW and AS get let go, Jim Zorn and Greg Blache take their spots. Front Runners for HC include Fassel and Meeks and Cerrato and Snyder's love child.

That should have caught you up.[/QUOTE]

I am assuming by that comment, this has been a hard past couple weeks for everyone here, and fairly emotional. I am not trying to start anything, just trying to get caught back up to speed here.
I understand they are gone, but what I am not aware of is why.

Please tell me the Cerrato comment was a joke.

tomo366 01-30-2008 01:37 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
ROTFLMFAO................you should have stayed there.....

redsk1 01-30-2008 01:40 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
DS: Consistency is key
DS: Vinny, you are promoted since you've done a great job!
VC: GW and AS's...Get outta here...we don't need you we'll Hire Jim Fassel
Media and Fans revolt against Jim Fassel
VC: Hires majority of staff before a Head Coach
DS and VC: Maybe we shouldn't hire JF...let's interview 8-10 other candidates
Media and fans: What the hell is going on?


Ahhh...never a dull moment in Snyderville.

jsarno 01-30-2008 01:45 PM

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[QUOTE=redsk1;415317]DS: Consistency is key
DS: Vinny, you are promoted since you've done a great job!
VC: GW and AS's...Get outta here...we don't need you we'll Hire Jim Fassel
Media and Fans revolt against Jim Fassel
VC: Hires majority of staff before a Head Coach
DS and VC: Maybe we shouldn't hire JF...let's interview 8-10 other candidates
Media and fans: What the hell is going on?


Ahhh...never a dull moment in Snyderville.[/QUOTE]

So are you saying the "why?" part is because Cerrato wanted them gone?

This is not good...can I just click my heals and go back to Hawaii?

ArtMonkDrillz 01-30-2008 01:48 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415315]I am assuming by that comment, this has been a hard past couple weeks for everyone here, and fairly emotional. I am not trying to start anything, just trying to get caught back up to speed here.
I understand they are gone, but what I am not aware of is why.

Please tell me the Cerrato comment was a joke.[/QUOTE]I think he means don't start because reviewing the past week will make you crazier than if you listened to a tape of the ?3 thread narrated by Dennis Hopper while taking LSD.

GW wasn't fired so much as he was told that he was no longer being considered for the HC spot and that he was free to go look for another job. It was all very passive-aggressive.

BDBohnzie 01-30-2008 01:52 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415315]I am assuming by that comment, this has been a hard past couple weeks for everyone here, and fairly emotional. I am not trying to start anything, just trying to get caught back up to speed here.
I understand they are gone, but what I am not aware of is why.

Please tell me the Cerrato comment was a joke.[/QUOTE]
Well, Cerrato being the VP of Football Operations isn't a joke. But his and Snyder's love child being up for consideration for HC was...

As far as we "know", Williams wanted more power than Snyder and Cerrato were willing to concede, hence why he's no longer a candidate. Snyder and Cerrato also were disappointed with Saunders' offense, and have hired Jim Zorn to replace him.

As far as consistency goes, just about every other coach (with the exception of Byner and the aforementioned) will be back.

Yeah, it's been very on edge for a lot of people here. Just be fortunate you weren't here and go with it. IMO, there are a lot of Chicken Littles running around here...

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-30-2008 01:54 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
yeah it has been a very crazy hectic week with all the things that have been going on with the Redskins

jsarno 01-30-2008 01:54 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;415324]I think he means don't start because reviewing the past week will make you crazier than if you listened to a tape of the ?3 thread narrated by Dennis Hopper while taking LSD.

GW wasn't fired so much as he was told that he was no longer being considered for the HC spot and that he was free to go look for another job. It was all very passive-aggressive.[/QUOTE]

Well, I can see Williams being upset at that, we all thought he was the first choice, so he could see that as backstabbing and want to move on. I could even see it as an argument with Snyder. GW- "well if I'm not the HC, I will quit" DS- "well you don't have to quit, you're fired."
So that somewhat explains GW, what about Saunders?
Also, how does Carrato figure in here?

MTK 01-30-2008 01:54 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
GW and Saunders leaving really wasn't all that surprising when you think about it.

The good news is a significant portion of the staff is returning including key guys like Bugel, Smith, and Blache.

WillH 01-30-2008 02:00 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
You know about as much as we do about why they were let go. Suffice it to say that on certain personnel matters DS and GW differed (some have suggested that VC was the main point of contention). As a result, DS decided to look at more candidates then originally planned; during that time GW was getting fed up with being left in the dark, as were all the assistant coaches. Gibbs calmed them all down as best he could, and said the decision would not come until after the Super Bowl. Gibbs also encouraged GW to stay in the race, until GW met with DS and VC and they all decided "mutually" that GW not be considered a candidate.

Since then the OC, DC. and other assistant positions have been filled. This has led to speculation that there is already a candidate in mind, or at least that the candidates they do have in mind seem to have no objections to the assistant coaches hired. Candidates include Jim Fassel, Steve Spagnuolo (sp?), Ron Meeks (recently brought in for 2nd interview), and Steve Mariucci (scheduled for an interview today).

As far as Saunders, it seems that he was going to be fired whether GW was HC or not. Apparently the organization (ie. DS abd VC) was not satisfied with his performance and wants to go in a new direction offensively. The new direction is assumed to be a West Coast Offense, but the main concern in this transition seems to be the development of Jason Campbell. Hence, Jim Zorn (former QB coach of Matt Hasslebeck) replaced Saunders, and was given the position of OC.

Redskins247 01-30-2008 02:01 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415330]Well, I can see Williams being upset at that, we all thought he was the first choice, so he could see that as backstabbing and want to move on. I could even see it as an argument with Snyder. GW- "well if I'm not the HC, I will quit" DS- "well you don't have to quit, you're fired."
So that somewhat explains GW, what about Saunders?
Also, how does Carrato figure in here?[/QUOTE]

Jsarno...I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from you during the madness. Cerrato being named vice president of football operations is Snyder's best effort at having a GM...and I don't think either were in the Saunders fan club. I always got the feeling he would be gone even if GW had been named head coach. As of now, I kind of like the hiring of Zorn...I think he will be good for Campbell.

Oh, and also Jeff Gordon is leaving Hendricks for DEI!!! now that IS a joke :cheeky-sm

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:04 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;415327]Well, Cerrato being the VP of Football Operations isn't a joke. But his and Snyder's love child being up for consideration for HC was...[/quote]

I knew the love child part was...LOL...but how can Cerrato be promoted??? He, IMO, is HURTING the skins, not helping. Has Dan fallen off the path again?

[quote]As far as we "know", Williams wanted more power than Snyder and Cerrato were willing to concede, hence why he's no longer a candidate. [/quote]
That makes sense, not from a "we want to win next year" standpoint, but from their objective.

[quote]Snyder and Cerrato also were disappointed with Saunders' offense, and have hired Jim Zorn to replace him.[/quote]

My football knowledge might be a little off, but wasn't Zorn the QB coach in Seattle? I think I remember the name as him being a QB back in the early 80's for Seattle too. Why in the world did he get it? Or am I missing something that he did to make him that deserving?

[quote]As far as consistency goes, just about every other coach (with the exception of Byner and the aforementioned) will be back.[/quote]

Byner is gone too? He did a good job, why is he gone?

[quote]Yeah, it's been very on edge for a lot of people here. Just be fortunate you weren't here and go with it. IMO, there are a lot of Chicken Littles running around here...[/QUOTE]

That's ALWAYS the case...shoot, look at the gameday threads...we'd be winning and Chicken littles would show up.
I am not as concerned with the fact that they are gone (although VERY shocked) I am more concerned with WHY.
Now I am hoping someone will tell me why Byner, and more importantly, Saunders is gone.

My brother told me Don Breaux was the new OC...where is don now?

skinsguy 01-30-2008 02:09 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415330]Well, I can see Williams being upset at that, we all thought he was the first choice, so he could see that as backstabbing and want to move on. I could even see it as an argument with Snyder. GW- "well if I'm not the HC, I will quit" DS- "well you don't have to quit, you're fired."
So that somewhat explains GW, what about Saunders?
Also, how does Carrato figure in here?[/QUOTE]


Jsarno,

Here's the deal. GW interviewed with DS and VC 4 times, but no contract was ever discussed. Apparently, DS just didn't feel GW was the right man for the job. Anyways, GW took his name out of the running and mutually agreed with the team to part ways. Saunders was fired because DS and VC just never really felt his offense was progressing the way it should've. So, Vinny grabs Jim Zorn (which actually too bad of a move,) to take AS place. Incidently, both Gregg Williams and Jim Fassel liked the move to get Zorn as the OC. Of course, Greg Blache has been promoted to DC, which also isn't too bad of a move. Really, the only major change on the coaching staff (of course other than Williams leaving) is Saunders getting the boot. The rest of the coaches will be back (with the exception of Earnest Byner as he was just offered a one year extension.)

What's getting confusing is if Jim Fassel is our next head coach, why they are waiting until after the Super Bowl to announce it. After watching Comcast Sports last night, Charlie Casserly seems to believe that Snyder backed off of Fassel because of the overwhelmingly negative sentiment from the fans. The majority of the fans just don't like Fassel as our coach. Therefore, Steve Mariucci is supposedly being interviewed either today or in the immediate future. So, it's possible that the Mooch might be the Redskins' next HC. No matter which guy is going to be head coach, we're probably going to be implementing a West Coast Offense.

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:10 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=WillH;415336]You know about as much as we do about why they were let go. Suffice it to say that on certain personnel matters DS and GW differed (some have suggested that VC was the main point of contention). As a result, DS decided to look at more candidates then originally planned; during that time GW was getting fed up with being left in the dark, as were all the assistant coaches. Gibbs calmed them all down as best he could, and said the decision would not come until after the Super Bowl. Gibbs also encouraged GW to stay in the race, until GW met with DS and VC and they all decided "mutually" that GW not be considered a candidate.

Since then the OC, DC. and other assistant positions have been filled. This has led to speculation that there is already a candidate in mind, or at least that the candidates they do have in mind seem to have no objections to the assistant coaches hired. Candidates include Jim Fassel, Steve Spagnuolo (sp?), Ron Meeks (recently brought in for 2nd interview), and Steve Mariucci (scheduled for an interview today).

As far as Saunders, it seems that he was going to be fired whether GW was HC or not. Apparently the organization (ie. DS abd VC) was not satisfied with his performance and wants to go in a new direction offensively. The new direction is assumed to be a West Coast Offense, but the main concern in this transition seems to be the development of Jason Campbell. Hence, Jim Zorn (former QB coach of Matt Hasslebeck) replaced Saunders, and was given the position of OC.[/QUOTE]

That's a great explanation...thanks.
If we are truely going to a west coast offense, I can see, and get on board with the Zorn hiring. He did wonders for Hasselbeck. I never saw Matt H. as a gifted QB, I saw him as a well coached QB.
DO we have any idea who the front runner is for HC? I don't really like any of those candidates you posted right now. Is is possible we are waiting til after the super bowl cause we are interested in a coach that will be coaching in the super bowl?

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:12 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;415337]Jsarno...I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from you during the madness. Cerrato being named vice president of football operations is Snyder's best effort at having a GM...and I don't think either were in the Saunders fan club. I always got the feeling he would be gone even if GW had been named head coach. As of now, I kind of like the hiring of Zorn...I think he will be good for Campbell.

Oh, and also Jeff Gordon is leaving Hendricks for DEI!!! now that IS a joke :cheeky-sm[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was sippin Mai Tai's and Pearl Harbors and whale watching and snorkeling reefs left from lava rocks. We also had an open bar at an authentic luau...that was a fun evening!

BDBohnzie 01-30-2008 02:12 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
Don Breaux's official title the last few season was Offensive Coordinator. We'll have to wait and see how titles fold out of this process.

Byner's contract runs out tomorrow, and he's been interviewing elsewhere. For some reason, the Skins have failed to lock him in.

Zorn was the QB Coach in Seattle under Holmgren. He helped mold Matt Hasselbeck into the All-Pro QB that he is. I'm guessing that all the HC front runners have signed off on him being the new OC, and made it an easy choice for Snyder and Cerrato.

Cerrato in years past was able to hide behind Snyder's moniker as far as decisions go. With his new title, he can now be held accountable for his actions. We shall see how this pans out.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-30-2008 02:13 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415345] Is is possible we are waiting til after the super bowl cause we are interested in a coach that will be coaching in the super bowl?[/QUOTE]Snyder is planning to drive a dump truck literally filled with solid gold to Belichick's house on Monday morning.

skinsguy 01-30-2008 02:14 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
I think Breaux is going to be reassigned as a special advisor.

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:16 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy;415344]Jsarno,

Here's the deal. GW interviewed with DS and VC 4 times, but no contract was ever discussed. Apparently, DS just didn't feel GW was the right man for the job. Anyways, GW took his name out of the running and mutually agreed with the team to part ways. Saunders was fired because DS and VC just never really felt his offense was progressing the way it should've. So, Vinny grabs Jim Zorn (which actually too bad of a move,) to take AS place. Incidently, both Gregg Williams and Jim Fassel liked the move to get Zorn as the OC. Of course, Greg Blache has been promoted to DC, which also isn't too bad of a move. Really, the only major change on the coaching staff (of course other than Williams leaving) is Saunders getting the boot. The rest of the coaches will be back (with the exception of Earnest Byner as he was just offered a one year extension.)

What's getting confusing is if Jim Fassel is our next head coach, why they are waiting until after the Super Bowl to announce it. After watching Comcast Sports last night, Charlie Casserly seems to believe that Snyder backed off of Fassel because of the overwhelmingly negative sentiment from the fans. The majority of the fans just don't like Fassel as our coach. Therefore, Steve Mariucci is supposedly being interviewed either today or in the immediate future. So, it's possible that the Mooch might be the Redskins' next HC. No matter which guy is going to be head coach, we're probably going to be implementing a West Coast Offense.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your expanation. I seem to be up to speed now.
Although, Byner is still puzzling. Why did they offer only a 1 year? Did Byner get upset and walk away then?

I really liked Saunders, but that offense wasn't working until Collins took over. Odd to say that. So maybe it's best that he is gone.
I LOVE the idea of bringing the west coast offense over here...I feel Campbell will be wonders with it.

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:19 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;415348]Snyder is planning to drive a dump truck literally filled with solid gold to Belichick's house on Monday morning.[/QUOTE]

LOL...I wasn't referring to Belichick, he just signed an extension after the whole spygate thing...he's not leaving N.E. to do anything other than retire.

skinsguy 01-30-2008 02:22 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415351]Thank you for your expanation. I seem to be up to speed now.
Although, Byner is still puzzling. Why did they offer only a 1 year? Did Byner get upset and walk away then?

I really liked Saunders, but that offense wasn't working until Collins took over. Odd to say that. So maybe it's best that he is gone.
I LOVE the idea of bringing the west coast offense over here...I feel Campbell will be wonders with it.[/QUOTE]

Not sure why they didn't offer Byner the same extension they offered to other coaches. I think the other coaches have signed 3 year extensions.

WillH 01-30-2008 02:23 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[quote=jsarno;415345]That's a great explanation...thanks.
If we are truely going to a west coast offense, I can see, and get on board with the Zorn hiring. He did wonders for Hasselbeck. I never saw Matt H. as a gifted QB, I saw him as a well coached QB.
DO we have any idea who the front runner is for HC? I don't really like any of those candidates you posted right now.[B] Is is possible we are waiting til after the super bowl cause we are interested in a coach that will be coaching in the super bowl?[/B][/quote]


That could be the case, this is some of the speculation on that:

Spagnuolo (sp?) the Giants DC could be one option.

Josh McDaniels the Pats OC could be another

and Steve Mariucci covering the game for NFL Network could be one also.

Snyder said something to the effect of "we are waiting until after the superbowl so as not to distract from the game, and so that we can consider all options." Read that as you like, but it seems that the main reason is the NFL has asked him to wait so as not to overshadow the Super Bowl. They are obviously still interviewing though, so they certainly have not come to a final decision, and if Fassel or Mariucci are not hired then they probably will at least interview Spagnoulo and McDaniels.

birdz4gibbs 01-30-2008 02:24 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415315]I am assuming by that comment, this has been a hard past couple weeks for everyone here, and fairly emotional. I am not trying to start anything, just trying to get caught back up to speed here.
I understand they are gone, but what I am not aware of is why.

Please tell me the Cerrato comment was a joke.[/QUOTE]

we,ve only had about a thousand candidates interviewed for the HC position thus far with mariucci today after they interviewed meeks yesterday.so yeah i hope you enjoyed your trip .al and gregg got the boot with what was mentioned to you and promoted blanche and signed a few other as well like bugel..so it,s been fun to say the least....

Redskins247 01-30-2008 02:25 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415346]Yeah, I was sippin Mai Tai's and Pearl Harbors and whale watching and snorkeling reefs left from lava rocks. We also had an open bar at an authentic luau...that was a fun evening![/QUOTE]

That sounds like a GOOD vacation! Congrats

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:31 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=WillH;415357]That could be the case, this is some of the speculation on that:

Spagnuolo (sp?) the Giants DC could be one option.

Josh McDaniels the Pats OC could be another

and Steve Mariucci covering the game for NFL Network could be one also.

Snyder said something to the effect of "we are waiting until after the superbowl so as not to distract from the game, and so that we can consider all options." Read that as you like, but it seems that the main reason is the NFL has asked him to wait so as not to overshadow the Super Bowl. They are obviously still interviewing though, so they certainly have not come to a final decision, and if Fassel or Mariucci are not hired then they probably will at least interview Spagnoulo and McDaniels.[/QUOTE]

I actually like the McDaniels idea. He's an underrated coach IMO.

What concerns me at this point is, very few HC's like to come to a place where they can't bring any coaches. Whoever takes over here, takes over with a staff in place, and NO familiar faces. That's a daunting task.

Defensewins 01-30-2008 02:35 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;415339]I knew the love child part was...LOL...but how can Cerrato be promoted??? He, IMO, is HURTING the skins, not helping. Has Dan fallen off the path again? [/QUOTE]

This is what started the whole mess on this sight. A lot of people got upset about losing GW and Saunders because GW most likely did not want Vinnie Cerrato. He most likely wanted to bring in another GM and Snyder will never accept that. Cerrato is his boy. As many on this site have wanted a real/qualified/talented GM for years now and we lost GW and Saunders due to this issue it pissed a ton of people off. Although Matty and MOD's have done a good job of trying to calm the masses.

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:36 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;415360]That sounds like a GOOD vacation! Congrats[/QUOTE]

It was a blast. I just relaxed and had a great time. Work tried to text me, and I just shut the phone off completely for the 11 days.
Went surfing on Poipu beach, went to the Dole plantation and mauna loa factory (macadamia nut factory, which I am addicted to macadamia nuts) and just enjoyed all the sites.
The two best places I went were probably Kona (city on the dry side of the Big Island) and the island of Kauai. Honolulu is actually HUGE and very commercial. It's just like a major city. Although Pearl Harbor was very awe inspiring.

jsarno 01-30-2008 02:37 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[QUOTE=Defensewins;415363]This is what started the whole mess on this sight. A lot of people got upset about losing GW and Saunders because GW most likely did not want Vinnie Cerrato. He most likely wanted to bring in another GM and Snyder will never accept that. Cerrato is his boy. As many on this site have wanted a real/qualified/talented GM for years now and we lost GW and Saunders due to this issue it pissed a ton of people off. Although Matty and MOD's have done a good job of trying to calm the masses.[/QUOTE]

I can very easily see that.

backrow 01-30-2008 02:57 PM

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[QUOTE=jsarno;415351]Thank you for your expanation. I seem to be up to speed now.
[/QUOTE]

Fassel was 58-53-1 with three PO appearances, 1 trip to SB, with a lot of experience against NFCE teams, fired from previous job at raisens in balmer.

Mooch was 75-71, 60-43 with 49ers, and 15-28 with the Lions, and four PO appearances, no trips to SB.

LDS wants an experienced former HC, and Fassel was nearly the man four years ago, until HOF Coach Gibbs signed on for Gibbs 2.0.

LDS nearly hired Fassel a week ago, but not for the fan rebellion, and I mean, a total melt-down. B&G fans seem to overwhelmingly hate Fassel.

The new coaching staff is designed for either front-runner, and our poll favors Mooch. Many say the new coaching staff consists of Fassel's hand picked favs, but JLC's blog cites they are all in Mooch's cell phone fav five as well. HailRedskins.com forum feels it's Mooch.

Of course, the assistant coaches on the Patriots and G-nomes are to be interviewed first before an announcement is made. A mere formality imho.

squrrelco3 01-30-2008 03:04 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;415356]Not sure why they didn't offer Byner the same extension they offered to other coaches. I think the other coaches have signed 3 year extensions.[/quote]

Well, the running game hasn't exactly taken off like gang-busters...I mean they had a few bright spots and there was the issue with the line being banged-up all season which never helps...I guess they figured Byner had something to do with the lack of production and decided to look elsewhere.

SmootSmack 01-30-2008 03:30 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
Also, Scott Campbell got promoted to Director of Player Personnel so he's going to be very instrumental in the shaping of the roster.

DynamiteRave 01-30-2008 03:37 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
Before Snyder either grows old and croaks or sells the team (if he ever decides to one day). Cerrato will end up being HC at some point in time.

Bank on it.

texasskinsfan 01-30-2008 03:39 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
Hey dude it was a good thing that you didn't look at the news or you would have been mad as heck the whole time you were on the island.

Danny boy has lost his fricking mind man, I'm not upset at him letting Al go ,but Gregg too makes me real mad. And bringing in that Fassal is really going to put us in deep poo next year when we could have made a real shot at winning the NC east.

So now cool off and think about all of those great sites you saw on the island because if you think about Danny boy and his flunky Vinny C too much you'll just be as angry as the rest of us.

MTK 01-30-2008 05:19 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[quote=firstdown;415377]One other thing. Besides the coaches hired, fired, let go, or interviewed most of this info is hear say. The front office has been mums the entire time and things have jumped from one rumor to the next to the next etc... So a bunch of this information you are reading is speculation unless it is a done deal. This lack of information is what has driven people nuts. Snyder has been called every name in the book and some that are not even in a book.[/quote]

Nail on the head right here.

Skins fans only have themselves to blame for this self induced hysteria.

Too much speculation, very little facts, and people have absolutely run wild with every rumor or whisper that has come across this site.

Campbell17 01-30-2008 05:38 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
You might want to forget about this 11 days...

Airfare to Hawaii $279
11 Day stay at hotel $936
Fishing trip $42
Spa Treatment $67
Surfing Lessons $18
Returning home to find team in disarray... Priceless.

SBXVII 01-30-2008 06:42 PM

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^....; ) Thats some funny stuff right there I don't care who you are. lol.

squrrelco3 01-30-2008 07:16 PM

Re: What the hell happened?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;415447]Nail on the head right here.

Skins fans only have themselves to blame for this self induced hysteria.

Too much speculation, very little facts, and people have absolutely run wild with every rumor or whisper that has come across this site.[/quote]

Matty,

I agree with you about 90%...I still think part of the responsibility falls on the team and it's PR...most of the rumors didn't come from fans...they came from the press, and that was primarily due to the fact that for some reason Dan and Vinnie insisted on a cloak of secrecy that rivaled the Manhattan Project in World War II. No other team in the league has been as quiet and trivial as they have been regarding who they were interviewing, and which direction they were headed. So the press had to speculate and track the flight path of Redskins 1 to figure out what was going on. Now the hysterical reactions the fans had to this information did not help matters either. I say the blame should fall 70% team, 30% fans.


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