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Schneed10 02-22-2008 03:03 PM

Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
Under review.

Bill B 02-22-2008 03:15 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
[quote=Schneed10;425158]In this thread, CrazyCanuck and I will periodically update the Salary Cap status of the Washington Redskins. As players restructure, resign, are signed as free agents, drafted, cut, and traded, we will do our best to keep the community updated on the cap implications of each transaction. This thread is also designed to house analysis and insight regarding the Redskins' likely course of action in free agency and the draft. The salary cap can often provide an indication of the team's intended approach to free agency - aggressive vs passive, etcetera.

We'll start off with a summary of the Redskins current cap situation and where they're likely headed before free agency opens in March.

In short, the numbers in the table below illustrate that the Redskins are currently $5.8 million over the cap. Once Brunell and Cartwright's contracts void, they will be $2.1 million over the cap. And then once the team makes some more standard moves listed below, the team should have an estimated $9.7 million in cap room heading into free agency.

Numbers presented below are in millions:[/quote]


Thanks for the update - so Brunell and Cartwright are the only two players with the voidable deals upcoming for this season?

Rajmahal33 02-22-2008 03:17 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
Didn't see anything in there specifically about Jon Jansen...do any of these figures reflect the effect of him restructuring?

Schneed10 02-22-2008 03:20 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
[quote=Rajmahal33;425162]Didn't see anything in there specifically about Jon Jansen...do any of these figures reflect the effect of him restructuring?[/quote]

Yes, Jansen's restructured deal is reflected in the numbers at the top of the analysis, within the current state section.

dmek25 02-22-2008 03:40 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
i really hope they give Lloyd another shot. the one thing that i really hate is carrying alot of dead cap money

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-22-2008 05:45 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
Top notch work Schneed.

Schneed10 02-22-2008 09:49 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
Thanks for the love.

I'm making an update. Thanks to SS, we saw a little tidbit regarding some advanced cap-massaging performed by the Skins at the end of 2007. Essentially, coming down the stretch, the Redskins had about $1.8 million in excess unused cap space. There's a loophole in the CBA that says if you renegotiate a contract after the season starts, and you put incentives into the contract, the incentives are automatically considered Likely To Be Earned, regardless of how attainable they are. Hence, the Redskins renegotiated the contract of Randall Godfrey at the end of the season, putting about $1.8 million in incentives into his contract. They were incentives that were impossible to reach, but get treated as LTBE. According to cap rules, when a Likely To Be Earned incentive is not reached, the team gets credit for it in the form of extra cap room the following year.

Essentially, because of this clever maneuver, the Skins managed to push $1.8 million in 2007 cap space into 2008. Because of this little discovery, our cap numbers just got better by $1.8 million.

Clever stuff. Lots of other teams do this, but clever nonetheless.

The change is reflected in the first post in this thread under the current status section.

GTripp0012 02-22-2008 10:05 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
[quote=dmek25;425176]i really hope they give Lloyd another shot. the one thing that i really hate is carrying alot of dead cap money[/quote]Yeah, you'd be carrying the dead cap in 2008, but cutting dead weight eliminates his contract beyond 2008. So in the long run, it saves the team a lot of money to cut him now.

SBXVII 02-22-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
I know it's hard to come up with exact figures when one does not know the actual contract, however I thought in the last number crunching we figured to be approximatly 20 mil under the cap? I know that also was if they reworked all the contracts. Am I missing something or is the best we can do right now is get 11 mil under?

Schneed10 02-22-2008 10:58 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
[quote=SBXVII;425238]I know it's hard to come up with exact figures when one does not know the actual contract, however I thought in the last number crunching we figured to be approximatly 20 mil under the cap? I know that also was if they reworked all the contracts. Am I missing something or is the best we can do right now is get 11 mil under?[/quote]

That figure you're referring to, the $20 million under or whatever it was, assumed we made every possible cap-saving move under the sun. This revised version you're seeing here shows only the moves the team is likely, or at least reported by JLC as likely to make.

For example, the version that showed $20 million meant we'd do things like cut Phillip Daniels and Shawn Springs, plus keep Brandon Lloyd. Those three moves alone would take us from the $11.5 million listed here to very close to the $20 million you're referring to.

So basically, I'm listing the $11.5 because they are moves the team seems likely to make, but the section at the very bottom lists other ways to cut money which would take us closer to the $20.0. In the end, the numbers are the same, it's just a different perspective.

SBXVII 02-23-2008 08:04 PM

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Thanks. I thought that was what you were eluding to. I guess they still have a little work to do next week. I mean all they have to do is get below the mark then they can take their time and work the rest out.

Dirtbagz89 02-23-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
How much more would we save (if any) if we released Lloyd next year instead of this year?

GTripp0012 02-23-2008 10:50 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
[quote=Dirtbagz89;425423]How much more would we save (if any) if we released Lloyd next year instead of this year?[/quote]The main difference is that we'd have to pay a 1.8 million dollar roster bonus to him and his 2 mil base salary. So we'd be costing ourselves 3.8 million in total contract value to keep him on.

We'd have less dead cap next year than we would this year, but his cap number for 2009 if we release him now is zero, and thats what we are going for.

Good question though, and welcome.

Schneed10 02-24-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
The first post in this thread has been updated to reflect the changes CC made in his 2/23 cap sheet update.

Brunell and Cartwright are assumed to be voided and off the roster now, Landry's bonus money was revised, and some updates to Tyler Ecker's figures were made as his situation was complicated last year as he was signed and cut and signed again.

I have to express to you guys how good CC is at keeping up with this stuff. He's so good, that he's even more accurate than the numbers that JLC and Adam Schefter are quoting in their reporting. Those reporters get their information from another fan capologist who seems to have insider information on bonus dollars awarded to players, but his numbers are incorrect in a few areas. CC really really knows this stuff. If you see him around the site, pat him on the proverbial back.

Schneed10 02-25-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2008
 
The numbers at the top of this thread have been updated.

Chris Samuels has received a two-year contract extension in which the team added base salaries of $8 million per year each in 2012 and 2013. In the deal, the Redskins converted $3.8 million of his 2008 base salary into a signing bonus.

This move reduced our cap figure this year by $3.2 million.


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