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Mattyk 03-05-2008 09:57 AM

Sapp retires
 
Kinda fitting that he and Favre go out in the same year

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3277165&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines]ESPN - Sapp files paperwork, officially puts end to 13-year career - NFL[/url]

I'm sure they'll be meeting up in Canton in 5 years.

SmootSmack 03-05-2008 10:42 AM

Re: Sapp retires
 
That was a great rivalry. It'd be fitting if Strahan retired this year as well

freddyg12 03-05-2008 10:48 AM

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I never liked Sapp much, but I remember watching him in college at the U & I said to a friend whose a Miami fan that I hope we draft him. My friend said he'll be gone by then. We had the 4th pick in the first rnd. & took Westbrook. Sapp fell to 12 to the Bucs after a positive marijuana test.

One of the many 'what ifs' of the Norvelle era. Sapp was a guy that in his prime tampa built a defense around.

chrisl4064 03-05-2008 11:24 AM

Re: Sapp retires
 
Sapp will not be in Canton. Dude is an idiot, will always be an idiot. I forgot he was even in the league after he left Tampa Bay.

Mattyk 03-05-2008 11:57 AM

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[quote=chrisl4064;429429]Sapp will not be in Canton. Dude is an idiot, will always be an idiot. I forgot he was even in the league after he left Tampa Bay.[/quote]

Let's take the emotion out of it and look at his resume:

7 straight Pro Bowl selections
96.5 career sacks (2nd highest ever for a defensive tackle)
1999 Defensive Player of the Year

Hard to argue with those numbers. I'd be shocked if he's not in the Hall someday.

freddyg12 03-05-2008 12:32 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;429449]Let's take the emotion out of it and look at his resume:

7 straight Pro Bowl selections
96.5 career sacks (2nd highest ever for a defensive tackle)
1999 Defensive Player of the Year

Hard to argue with those numbers. I'd be shocked if he's not in the Hall someday.[/quote]

Actually, while I agree w/you Matty on Sapp's performance, you have to consider some things about Sapp. He's the antithesis of Monk, who simply refused to do interviews for years.

Sapp did interviews for years, but then a couple years ago on the sports reporters, Mitch Albom said that Sapp was pissed off at a couple reporters so he began a season long habit of cussing at every one that asked him for a quote. Think about it, when's the last time you heard him say anything? Albom said it would be ironic in the end cause Sapp would want a broadcasting career after playing.

Since a no. of media types are on the committee you have to consider the relationship that players have w/the media. Monk was always a gentleman, but his reclusive nature didn't help him when it came to votes IMO.

Sapp did the opposite, he probably talked his way into being a 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th ballot hall of famer, whereas he had the career of a 1st ballot guy. I predict it will take the same kind of outcry as it did for Monk for Sapp to get in.

BleedBurgundy 03-05-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Sapp retires
 
I always thought Sapp was overrated when I actually watched games he was playing. Obviously, those numbers are not those of someone "overrated." It'll be interesting to see if he gets the HOF. Would he be the first Buc to make it?

Mattyk 03-05-2008 01:19 PM

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I guess we'll see if his off the field stuff hurts his chances. He has the next 5 years where he could rectify things a bit. But looking strictly at his performance on the field, I would put him in first ballot.

lwiedy 03-05-2008 02:11 PM

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;429478]I always thought Sapp was overrated when I actually watched games he was playing. Obviously, those numbers are not those of someone "overrated." It'll be interesting to see if he gets the HOF. Would he be the first Buc to make it?[/QUOTE]

No. Lee Roy Selmon (the anti-Sapp on the Class-O-Meter)

sportscurmudgeon 03-05-2008 06:12 PM

Re: Sapp retires
 
Matty:

Defensive players usually wait longer to get into the HoF than do offensive players. I'm not sure Sapp was so dominant in his career than he can overcome that and make it in his first year of eligibility. Remember, Favre will be eligible that year too; so that takes up one "slot" for that particular HoF class...

redskinsfanatic 03-05-2008 06:52 PM

Re: Sapp retires
 
good!there goes another jackass out to pasture.most overated player in the last 10 years.good riddance.

Dirtbag59 03-05-2008 07:20 PM

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[IMG]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj304/DirkXXVI/ImDone.jpg[/IMG]

Campbell17 03-05-2008 10:49 PM

Re: Sapp retires
 
I think Sapp announced this a while back. I dont know if he's hall of fame material. Brett Favre sure the hell is.

SmootSmack 03-05-2008 11:03 PM

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[QUOTE=Campbell17;429704]I think Sapp announced this a while back. I dont know if he's hall of fame material. Brett Favre sure the hell is.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it was just that yesterday he submitted the official paperwork

GMScud 03-05-2008 11:11 PM

Re: Sapp retires
 
I think Sapp is HOF material. Probably not first ballot, but he was one of the best D-tackles of all time, won a Super Bowl, made multiple pro-bowls... I'm not a big fan of his friggin mouth, but his body of work on the field is pretty outstanding. 96.5 sacks for DT is damn good.


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