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KB24 04-16-2008 02:38 PM

Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
Another chapter to "As the Johnson Turns." Why can't this clown just go away?!?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3349761]ESPN - Johnson says he won't attend team functions, demands trade - NFL[/url]

Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson left no room for doubt Wednesday: He wants out of Cincinnati as fast as possible and he doesn't plan on reporting for any future Bengal function -- mandatory or voluntary.

What spurred Johnson's immediate reaction was a statement made by quarterback Carson Palmer that indicated Johnson had told Palmer he would be at the team's mandatory minicamp in mid-June. Johnson said that wasn't true.

"I want to make this very clear,'' Johnson said Wednesday. "I don't know where he got that. I made no assertion to Carson that I would do that. Nothing has changed from what I've been saying for three months that I don't want to play for the Bengals.''

Johnson made one of his strongest statements in saying he is not planning on reporting to any team functions because he wants to be traded.

"I want to be traded before the draft, and if that doesn't happen, I want to be traded as soon as possible,'' Johnson said. "I don't intend on reporting to anything.''

Johnson is skipping the team's offseason workouts as he tries to push for a trade. But the Bengals have also made it clear that they have no plans of trading him.

The Pro Bowl wide receiver said he was surprised by Palmer's comments about his possibly reporting to mandatory camp.

"I wish he would stay out of my business,'' Johnson said.

Skinny Tee 04-16-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
...Like sands through the hourglass so are the eternal threads on CJ to the Redskins


Looks like CJ's agent wants to move to the next phase and has told him to be more vocal about getting out of Cinnci. Wanting it by the draft though is a bit absurd since teams are focusing on their draftboards.

Dirtbag59 04-16-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
I don't know. All it takes is one team looking at their draft board in disgust to pick up the phone and give the Bengals a viable offer. So I would say that demanding a trade before the draft might be a good strategy after all.

sandtrapjack 04-16-2008 03:01 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
I am reminded of Lance Briggs when he made the same statements last year at this time. Who can forget "I'll never play another down in a Bears uniform." Not only did he play, but he signed a big contract with them as well later in the season. So we all know how that turned out.

Then when his absences were going to cost him money, he was the first one in the locker room. I can see a similar situation with CJ.

Right now, the "voluntary" workouts do not cost him anything. Just wait until camp starts and he does not get paid and gets fined 10,000 a day for holding out. I have a feeling he will show up.

If Johnson wants out of Cincy SOOOO bad, how come we hear him scream TRADE ME! But we do not hear him say "I'll pay back my signing bonus" to alleviate that cap hit.

If he REALLY wants out of there that badly he needs to pay back his bonus and not ask the Bengals to make all of the financial sacrifices associated with his trade.

Put up or shut up Johnson.....you are wasting everyones time.

freddyg12 04-16-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
sandtrap, your boys have 2 1st rnd. picks & JJ seems to think he can get anyone to walk st. and narrow. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear dallas' name in the mix for CJ as the draft approaches.

freddyg12 04-16-2008 03:28 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;440097]...Like sands through the hourglass so are the eternal threads on CJ to the Redskins


Looks like CJ's agent wants to move to the next phase and has told him to be more vocal about getting out of Cinnci. Wanting it by the draft though is a bit absurd since teams are focusing on their draftboards.[/quote]

Isn't Rosenhaus his agent? I would think he would want to do the talking behind the scenes. Maybe that's already been tried. Either way as mentioned here, it doesn't get serious until he starts really missing mandatory practices, then someone's got to call the other's bluff & do something. Marvin Lewis & co. may be in a position now where they have to dig their heels in.

sandtrapjack 04-16-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
[quote=freddyg12;440109]sandtrap, your boys have 2 1st rnd. picks & JJ seems to think he can get anyone to walk st. and narrow. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear dallas' name in the mix for CJ as the draft approaches.[/quote]
Not saying that if the Bengals want to trade him to Dallas I would not be happy to have him.

But Johnson would stand a much better chance of any trade happening if he put something in the pot on the table. That is all. Until he offers to make at least part of the sacrifice, his demands lack credibility.

mlmpetert 04-16-2008 04:34 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
[quote=wilsowilso;440130]Chad Johnson sure is a whiny bitch. What is up with WR's in general? There seems to be an extra large percentage of ego maniacs running go routes in the NFL. Not to say I wouldn't be happy to have CJ for a reasonable price, [B]but he is turning into a total mental case off the field.[/B] At least he doesn't get in trouble with law.[/quote]


Remember when he was just a mental case while on the field. I pray we dont waste any picks on him

Longtimefan 04-16-2008 04:46 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;440129]Not saying that if the Bengals want to trade him to Dallas I would not be happy to have him.

But Johnson would stand a much better chance of any trade happening if he put something in the pot on the table. That is all. Until he offers to make at least part of the sacrifice, his demands lack credibility.[/QUOTE]


After the debacle here a couple years ago with LaVar Arrington where the situation was simular to which you speak, that may not be an easy feat to accomplish.

BleedBurgundy 04-16-2008 04:51 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
I want nothing to do with this clown. The more the modern day wr's act like fools, the more I appreciate Art Monk. Last of his kind.

freddyg12 04-16-2008 05:01 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
CJ is trying to force their hand but at the same time is looking bad in doing so, might lower his value a lot. Please don't do it danny!

skinsfan_nn 04-16-2008 05:04 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
Stinko on the 'Warpath'.....huh. What a surprise.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Posted at 4:13 PM ET, 04/16/2008
Chad Johnson On The Warpath, Again

As I wrote about months ago, Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato have a thing for Chad Johnson. It was a staple of their interviews with head coaching candidates. He would fill what they believe to be the biggest void on the team, or at least so they told several of the men they considered to replace Joe Gibbs.

So now Chad is going postal again, ranting and raving that he won't report for any Bengals team activity and lashing out at QB Carson Palmer. This is Rosenhaus 101 people. And sometimes it actually does work and his client creates such a ridiculous stir that he gets traded.

So far the Bengals have refused to cave on anything and the Brown family, team owners, have told other execs that they don't care if Johnson does sit out the entire year, they're not rewarding his outlandish antics. They own the contract and they control his rights.

Again, stay tuned. In June when Johnson's cap hit would be halved no doubt teams will be nosing around again. I would be stunned if the Bengals did anything before then and people around the NFL continue to tell me they don't this this cat gets moved regardless, especially after Chris Henry got cut.

Still, the Bengals have needs and are trying to create a new identity, free from this kind of stuff. Never say never. And if they do actually shop him, I would be stunned if the Skins didn't pounce. They created all that cap room for a reason, and it wasn't just to re-sign Collins, Frost, Cartwright and Fabini.

Dirtbag59 04-16-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;440145]Stinko on the 'Warpath'.....huh. What a surprise.

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL]

Posted at 4:13 PM ET, 04/16/2008
Chad Johnson On The Warpath, Again

As I wrote about months ago, Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato have a thing for Chad Johnson. It was a staple of their interviews with head coaching candidates. He would fill what they believe to be the biggest void on the team, or at least so they told several of the men they considered to replace Joe Gibbs.

So now Chad is going postal again, ranting and raving that he won't report for any Bengals team activity and lashing out at QB Carson Palmer. This is Rosenhaus 101 people. And sometimes it actually does work and his client creates such a ridiculous stir that he gets traded.

So far the Bengals have refused to cave on anything and the Brown family, team owners, have told other execs that they don't care if Johnson does sit out the entire year, they're not rewarding his outlandish antics. They own the contract and they control his rights.

Again, stay tuned. In June when Johnson's cap hit would be halved no doubt teams will be nosing around again. I would be stunned if the Bengals did anything before then and people around the NFL continue to tell me they don't this this cat gets moved regardless, especially after Chris Henry got cut.

Still, the Bengals have needs and are trying to create a new identity, free from this kind of stuff. Never say never. And if they do actually shop him, I would be stunned if the Skins didn't pounce. They created all that cap room for a reason, and it wasn't just to re-sign Collins, Frost, Cartwright and Fabini.[/quote]

You forgot to post the end of the article.

[I]Also, the stock market dipped again today. Some are saying that the drop is infinity billion points. If this is true then I don't see how the fans can't blame Vinny Cerato. [/I]

[I]Oh yeah the Nationals suck, but how bout them Caps....yeah I'm a Caps fan now that they're doing well. Sally Jenkins just made a funny dry sarcastic comment but it was the type of thing where you have to be here.......Good one Sally.[/I]

[I]Also Reality TV is spicing up these days. What Redskins? Oh yeah the Redskins will never win a Super Bowl with Vinny Cerato at the helm. Still waiting for that nickname people, so I can zing him before I get banned from Redskin park forever. [/I]

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SKINSnCANES 04-16-2008 06:44 PM

Re: Ocho Stinko: "I want to be traded before the draft"
 
Clinton Portis has said that he and CJ are great friends and he would love his energy on the team, and his talent speaks for itself

I would LOVE to have CJ as a redskin, have always said it. Hes a great great receiver. He and Portis would make the redskins the most fun team in the league to watch, both for on field production and off the field antics. celebrating too much shouldnt be that big of a deal.


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