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SmootSmack 04-17-2008 10:43 AM

Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
Link coming soon. Always liked him. Ravens suck even more now

Monkeydad 04-17-2008 10:46 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
2 years too late.

KLHJ2 04-17-2008 10:52 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807d10c1&template=with-video&confirm=true]McNair to announce his retirement[/url]

Here is a little one.

SmootSmack 04-17-2008 10:52 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
Thanks Angry

Redskins247 04-17-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
I always liked him too, during the good years the Titans were in every game with him as the QB. And I thought the way they handled him leaving TN was as sh*tty as it gets!!!

Mattyk 04-17-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
I always liked watching him play, one of the toughest SOB's the league has seen.

But the last few years he's been a shell of his former self.

mooby 04-17-2008 11:01 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
I wasn't expecting him to retire this season, but I think the time is right. I always looked up to him in his better days, but as of late he hasn't been that guy. Sucks for the Ravens though, whatever rookie quarterback there gonna draft is gonna have to sit for a while while Kyle Boller plays lol. Kyle Boller shouldn't be anything more than a backup now, I really thought when McNair got injured that he'd have an easier time coming off the bench and that would help him because he wouldn't have been thought of as "the guy" in B-more anymore, but it really didn't. Good for McNair though, he recognized it's time to move on.

Who thinks he has a shot of getting in the HOF with Brett Favre in 2012 now? Is he a first ballot HOF'er or will he have to wait a while?

dmek25 04-17-2008 11:05 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
boy, ill bet they want Ryan in the worst way. maybe a draft day trade? McNair, in his hay day, was one of the toughest S.O.B's to play that position. probably hung on 2 years too long. anyone care to post his career stats? just wondering, because the next question is he "Hall" worthy?

KLHJ2 04-17-2008 11:09 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/stevemcnair/profile?id=MCN033803]Steve McNair[/url]

Steve McNair, QB
Baltimore Ravens
Career Statistics
Att: 4,544
Comp: 2,733
Yards: 31,304
TD/INT: 174/119

Mattyk 04-17-2008 11:13 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
Looking at his [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaSt00.htm?redir"]career numbers[/URL] I'll say he's definitely not a first ballot guy and might not even be a Hall of Famer at all.

He had a good career. Was he great though? Not so sure about that. He was a popular and well respected player though, that might help his case.

steveo395 04-17-2008 11:41 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
If they put him in the hall of fame, they might as well put mark brunell in the hall of fame because he was just as good, if not better... so basically what I'm saying is, he better not make the hall of fame.

Mattyk 04-17-2008 11:43 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
[quote=steveo395;440318]If they put him in the hall of fame, they might as well put mark brunell in the hall of fame because he was just as good, if not better... so basically what I'm saying is, he better not make the hall of fame.[/quote]

Yeah I'm thinking the same thing regarding MB. His numbers are very similar

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrunMa00.htm]Mark Brunell Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

GTripp0012 04-17-2008 11:45 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
Probably a no on the HOF for McNair.

He won an MVP in his career year, and had a few other good years scattered around it, but he took a very long time to develop. He was an anchor on the '99 SB team, and that was his 5th NFL season already.

His career took off for the next four years, and he showed he could be a pro bowl level player, culminating with the Co-MVP in 2003, but there's a long list of players with better credentials than McNair who are on the outside looking in at Canton right now.

KLHJ2 04-17-2008 11:47 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
[quote=Mattyk72;440319]Yeah I'm thinking the same thing regarding MB. His numbers are very similar

[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrunMa00.htm"]Mark Brunell Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/URL][/quote]

And all it took was Baltimore-Washington connection to water down their numbers even more. [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon10.gif[/IMG]

GTripp0012 04-17-2008 11:49 AM

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 
[quote=dmek25;440300]boy, ill bet they want Ryan in the worst way. maybe a draft day trade? McNair, in his hay day, was one of the toughest S.O.B's to play that position. probably hung on 2 years too long. anyone care to post his career stats? just wondering, because the next question is he "Hall" worthy?[/quote]I'm really surprised that the fact that Matt Ryan is an awful decision maker doesn't factor in to the evaluation of his intangibles?

If argument A was "he makes a bunch of bad decisions and throws too many interceptions" and argument B was "his nickname is 'Matty Ice.'!!!!!", you'd have half the scouts in the league assuming that those two pieces of information cancel each other.

But you are absolutely right, the Ravens need to get somebody in the first two rounds of this draft to play QB for them.


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