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chrisl4064 05-07-2008 03:51 AM

What this all means for Moss?
 
With the addition of our new recievers from the draft and all the speculation on how big of an impact they will make, I can't help but to get excited for Santana. I personally think we have all seen a decline in his production (partly to injuries). I Feel as though he should have a very good year, possibly his best year as a Redskin yet. With the new offense and all the draftees, this could turn out to be a very good rebounding year for him.

NM Redskin 05-07-2008 04:05 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[QUOTE=chrisl4064;447089] (partly [due] to injuries). [/QUOTE]

The story of Moss's career. The dude can't stay healthy.

djnemo65 05-07-2008 05:56 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
Yeah, I mean Moss is a guy who really only has one signature season in his entire career (2005). I love the guy but I think his career is really at a crossroads this year. If he is going to bounce back and be a game changing receiver again it is going to have to happen this season.

airsoftking 05-07-2008 06:22 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
I agree, I feel like he could have a great year. He'll be #1 and all those targets should help him get open. He's damn fast and I'm sure he'll be fine in the WCO.

Daseal 05-07-2008 06:58 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
The writing is on the wall for Moss. I'm very disappointed in him, personally. He had stone hands last year, and gave up many times. The one that sticks out in my mind is after an int (that went right through his hands) he tossed his hands up -- didn't chase the CB.

CPAlltheWay012 05-07-2008 07:28 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal;447098]The writing is on the wall for Moss. I'm very disappointed in him, personally. He had stone hands last year, and gave up many times. The one that sticks out in my mind is after an int (that went right through his hands) he tossed his hands up -- didn't chase the CB.[/QUOTE]


If you're talking about the Seattle game it did not go right through his hands, and I don't believe he realized it was intercepted (pulled a Jeremy Shockey)

724Skinsfan 05-07-2008 08:06 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[quote=CPAlltheWay012;447102]If you're talking about the Seattle game it did not go right through his hands, and I don't believe he realized it was intercepted (pulled a Jeremy Shockey)[/quote]


I think he means the Green Bay game.

I can agree that statistically Moss ' 2005 season was the best but I can remember a couple of game changing catches that few receivers in the NFL could have made. I think he's at his best when the catch is critical and requires perfect agility/timing.

SC Skins Fan 05-07-2008 08:14 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[quote=djnemo65;447095]Yeah, I mean Moss is a guy who really only has one signature season in his entire career (2005). I love the guy but I think his career is really at a crossroads this year. If he is going to bounce back and be a game changing receiver again it is going to have to happen this season.[/quote]

He had a really good year in 2003 for the Jets actually (1,100 yards, 10 tds). And I think if you think really hard about Moss when he was healthy last year then you might recall some great catches. He's a game-changer, he just is hurt too often. As much as it pains me to say it, Jason also missed him on more than a few occasions last year when he was wide open (the Eagles game in Week 2 comes to mind, but there were other occasions as well). Not to mention he is a certified Cowboy killer, even in the first game when he was injured.

Week 11 @ Dallas - 9 catches, 121 yards, 1 td
Week 17 v. Dallas - 8 catches, 115 yards, 1 td

[quote=Daseal;447098]The writing is on the wall for Moss. I'm very disappointed in him, personally. He had stone hands last year, and gave up many times. The one that sticks out in my mind is after an int (that went right through his hands) he tossed his hands up -- didn't chase the CB.[/quote]

I guess you missed the end of the season?

SouperMeister 05-07-2008 08:24 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
When Santana is on the field, opponents must respect his speed, often keeping a safety deep just to account for the home run threat. By spreading the ball around in a WCO, Santana will probably never repeat 2005, but he'll have his share of long TDs and Jason's numbers will skyrocket once he and the receivers are on the same page in the offense. With the addition of 3 big receivers in the draft, Cooley's red zone TDs will also go down, but Campbell will have more success given multiple options.

Schneed10 05-07-2008 08:35 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
Moss reminds me of Mark Brunell. That seems ridiculous but let me explain. Back in 2005 when Brunell threw 23 TDs and took us to the playoffs, he was completely, 100% healthy. He had no knee pain. Whenever the guy had the slightest bit of pain in his legs, he was no longer able to step into his throws or move in the pocket properly, and consequently he looked like a high school QB.

Moss is the same way. When his legs/feet are 100% pain free, he's a top WR in the game, because he can push off and change direction so suddenly, not to mention flat out burn dudes downfield. But way too many times he has some sort of nagging problem, a hamstring, a toe, a knee, whatever. He's never at 100%.

I don't have high hopes for him. I see him getting hurt for us at some point this season. At times he'll be great, and at many other times he'll disappear.

Mattyk 05-07-2008 08:45 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
The big question of course is can he stay healthy? If he can I believe he could have a nice season with all the other weapons around him now and a more wide open offense.

rugged d 05-07-2008 08:57 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
I think more options in the offense helps him out health wise there will no be not to much strain on him to make plays and he will take less of a beating because of it

skinsfan69 05-07-2008 09:28 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[quote=Schneed10;447112]Moss reminds me of Mark Brunell. That seems ridiculous but let me explain. Back in 2005 when Brunell threw 23 TDs and took us to the playoffs, he was completely, 100% healthy. He had no knee pain. Whenever the guy had the slightest bit of pain in his legs, he was no longer able to step into his throws or move in the pocket properly, and consequently he looked like a high school QB.

Moss is the same way. When his legs/feet are 100% pain free, he's a top WR in the game, because he can push off and change direction so suddenly, not to mention flat out burn dudes downfield. But way too many times he has some sort of nagging problem, a hamstring, a toe, a knee, whatever. He's never at 100%.

I don't have high hopes for him. I see him getting hurt for us at some point this season. At times he'll be great, and at many other times he'll disappear.[/quote]

You bring up a real good point here. It's just how the guy is built. He's always going to have some kind of injury and that is why we drafted two wr's in the 2nd round.

Schneed10 05-07-2008 09:43 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;447123]You bring up a real good point here. It's just how the guy is built. He's always going to have some kind of injury and that is why we drafted two wr's in the 2nd round.[/quote]

Yeah. I mean don't get me wrong, he's still the best WR we have by a long shot. Hopefully Thomas and Kelly turn into something, but right now they're just rookies and rookies rarely light up the field in year one.

I also don't think the team is writing Moss off just yet, he's still viewed as our top WR and is heavily counted on. But he does need to show that he can be available and a strong contributor even when hurt, or he's in danger of being on the outs.

I personally see iffy production from all of our WRs this year. I think the new offense is going to take time to click, Campbell will go looking for his WRs but won't always be confident that they're on the same page, and Cooley will be picking up a big part of the slack as Campbell will use him as a safety valve more and more.

So that leads me back to the running game. We go as Portis and the line go, West Coast Offense or not.

Stuck in TX 05-07-2008 09:48 AM

Re: What this all means for Moss?
 
Moss is easy, jam him at the line and double team him. That has been the opponent's method since he came here and it has been successful. With a huge target in Kelly, and a quick, large target in Thomas, added with a true slot burner in ARE, there will not be enough CB's to hang with Moss. He will have a bounceback season to remember and I think he will have the opportunity to silence all of his critics for years to come. And speaking of the Green Bay game, Moss was injured during that game. If not for him we would not have had even 3 healthy receivers. He blew that game for us but his heart was there. With no O line and Green Bay's run stopping dynamics, we couldnt utilize Portis like we wanted to. We hung in there though and put up a fight IMO.


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