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Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 07-19-2008 10:55 AM

Insight to drafting Davis
 
I was thinking ever since we drafted Fred Davis in the second round why!! I know that he is very talented but we already had Cooley. Sellers is like 35 years old and is not going to be around that much longer. I believe that Davis will actually be our fullback eventually playing the H-back role. He has speed, size and great hands (essentials of west coast offense). I'm not saying that he will be fullback for years but I wouldn't be surprised if he started at fullback for a couple of years until his career picks up at tightend. Davis will have to become a better blocker like Sellers. Guys give me some feedback on this!!

Mattyk 07-19-2008 10:58 AM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
Sellers turns 33 on Monday.

No, I don't see Davis moving to FB. He's not a great blocker and he's too athletic to waste in the backfield.

Redskins8588 07-19-2008 11:02 AM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
He may become our next fullback, but I am not sold on that. Think about this, first game of the season and Cooley tears an ACL or breaks his arm, leg, or wahtever. Where does that leave the offense? Who is our next talented TE that can do or even be close to Cooley? Todd Yoder? I don't think so. Yoder is ok but lets face facts he is no Cooley. I am not saying that Davis is as good as Cooley but is much more athletic than Yoder is...

Schneed10 07-19-2008 11:02 AM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=Mattyk72;457595]Sellers turns 33 on Monday.

No, I don't see Davis moving to FB. He's not a great blocker and he's too athletic to waste in the backfield.[/quote]

What he said.

EEich 07-19-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
This isn't the Gibbs offense anymore where TE=FB=HBack... this is the west coast. TE=TE.

LandrySlice 07-19-2008 11:52 AM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
I love Yoder, but we need a great second option at TE in this WC offense... that fits Davis more then anyone else after Cooley. no chance he becomes a FB

NYCskinfan82 07-19-2008 12:53 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
He's a TE they will create mismatches for him

Skinny Tee 07-19-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
We're running a new offense this year. This offense requires the use of two receiving TE's. Zorn knows what it takes to run his offense so that is the main reason why we got Davis.

Davis isn't that proficient in blocking so that would preclude him from blocking as a FB. He is going to open the field up on formation that he is involved.


On a side note, the season is basically here. Once the hall of fame game is played there will be a NFL football game played every week until FEB...It's almost here.

GTripp0012 07-19-2008 02:37 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
I think the team feels that Davis is very proficient in blocking as well as receiving: I'd imagine that's why we drafted him so high.

The draft analysts definately disagree with the team on this one, but they also thought that Antrel Rolle was better than Carlos Rogers, and that both Alex Smith AND Aaron Rodgers were better than Jason Campbell, so the score is 2-0 in favor of the Redskins' college scouting department right now.

Maybe Fred Davis IS a great blocker? I think i'll trust the guys right now.

Skinny Tee 07-19-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=GTripp0012;457640]I think the team feels that Davis is very proficient in blocking as well as receiving: I'd imagine that's why we drafted him so high.

Maybe Fred Davis IS a great blocker? I think i'll trust the guys right now.[/quote]

I trust the scouting department but his scouting reports clearly states that he is not a great in-line blocker. He had the most receptions on his team this year, even more than WRs at USC. He didn't get those receptions by staying back and blocking.

The team knows he's an atheltic receiver and that's how they want to use him. I'm fine with that, but he is not going to sprout a blocking prowess out of thin air.

Never the less I'm excited to see how all of our rookies turn out this year.

GTripp0012 07-19-2008 03:04 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;457650]I trust the scouting department but his scouting reports clearly states that he is not a great in-line blocker. He had the most receptions on his team this year, even more than WRs at USC. [B]He didn't get those receptions by staying back and blocking. [/B]

The team knows he's an atheltic receiver and that's how they want to use him. I'm fine with that, but he is not going to sprout a blocking prowess out of thin air.

Never the less I'm excited to see how all of our rookies turn out this year.[/quote]Right, and that's a reason to think that the scouts might be wrong on his blocking ability.

I actually have no recollection of Davis ever blocking in college. When I did my pre-draft reports, I went 100% off what the experts said, that he's weak at the point of attack.

Of course, that's assuming that my sources were valid: the Skins clearly dispute this fact so there's legitimate reason to be hopeful that the team is correct.

Skinny Tee 07-19-2008 03:21 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=GTripp0012;457654]Right, and that's a reason to think that the scouts might be wrong on his blocking ability.

Of course, that's assuming that my sources were valid: the Skins clearly dispute this fact so there's legitimate reason to be hopeful that the team is correct.[/quote]

So you are supporting the idea that we are going to use him as a FB becasue of his underlying blocking ability.

With all the stats and awards that he's gotten as a recieving TE we are going to end up using him to block when he comes in...allright, fair enough, I guess we'll agree to disagree on this.

Hope he does well this year, at least we can agree on that.

GTripp0012 07-19-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;457655]So you are supporting the idea that we are going to use him as a FB becasue of his underlying blocking ability.

With all the stats and awards that he's gotten as a recieving TE we are going to end up using him to block when he comes in...allright, fair enough, I guess we'll agree to disagree on this.

Hope he does well this year, at least we can agree on that.[/quote]Actually, I said nothing about him being a FB at all.

Zorn is probably going to faze the FB position out of the offense as Sellers gets closer to retirement.

I simply remain optimistic that Davis can be the better blocker of our two TE's: him and Cooley. Cooley has definately improved his blocking since he came into the league, and is probably a bit above average as a blocker. I'm hoping Davis can be even better than this.

mlmpetert 07-19-2008 05:50 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
I go to wonder how much of it was just plan best overall player at on the Redskins draft board.

Im not thrilled overall with the pick, but if it was solely based on who they truely thought was the best avialable player im 100% happy with it.

Mattyk 07-19-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Insight to drafting Davis
 
[quote=mlmpetert;457663][B]I go to wonder how much of it was just plan best overall player at on the Redskins draft board. [/B]

Im not thrilled overall with the pick, but if it was solely based on who they truely thought was the best avialable player im 100% happy with it.[/quote]

According to Vinny that was it exactly


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