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GhettoDogAllStars 07-22-2008 12:58 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;458442]Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some [U]right[/U] to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious [U]personal[/U] beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.[/QUOTE]

It's kinda cool that JLC is not a homer. I think he provides more scrutiny than a homer would, and I can sort through what is BS and what is substantial.

But yeah, it is funny that JLC wrote a blog about this. I thought it was common knowledge that FOs lie to the media.

Paintrain 07-22-2008 01:01 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;458443]JC's not happy with his own performance in practice, he said it himself... he let's the pressure get to him too much and over thinks. I hope you are right and he'll work out of it... but if not then the right thing to do is pull the plug before we are needing 6 straights wins to make the playoffs....[/QUOTE]

It's....day...three... Chill out.

Let's get into at least mid September before calling for the backup!

MTK 07-22-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=hesscl34;458443]JC's not happy with his own performance in practice, he said it himself... he let's the pressure get to him too much and over thinks. I hope you are right and he'll work out of it... but if not then the right thing to do is pull the plug before we are needing 6 straights wins to make the playoffs....[/quote]

We're not even done with day 3 of camp. Personally I like the fact he's critical of himself. He's probably not playing quite as bad as he thinks he is. He just needs to settle in. He'll be fine.

Schneed10 07-22-2008 01:31 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;458442]Exactly. Why does JLC think he has some [U]right[/U] to know what the front office is thinking in regards to personnel decisions? Why would Vinny want other teams to know that the Redskins were thinking about acquiring Taylor, thereby potentially entering into a bidding war or getting slapped with tampering charges? Granted, Vinny could have responded to inquiries with "no comment," but that's tantamount to saying, "I absolutely confirm the validity of these rumors."

Either JLC (1) realizes that front offices' engage in subterfuge, deception, and outright lies; or (2) he is an idiot for believing that Vinny should be absolutely candid with the press. In any event, JLC seems like he has some serious [U]personal[/U] beef with this front office. He never wastes an opportunity to blast the team. He might think he is just calling them like he sees them and the rest of us are dumb sheep, but I tend to think he is oftentimes unprofessional insofar as he is letting his personal biases color his perception of front office moves.[/quote]

Good post, I would agree that JLC does behave unreasonably with his incessant bashing of the team.

I don't think we could have been hit with any tampering charges when it comes to Taylor, because tampering would consist of talking to a guy when he's under contract. That's not what Vinny was doing, he wasn't talking to Taylor, he was talking to Parcells about trading for Taylor. Which is perfectly legal in the NFL world.

But tampering notwithstanding, you're right, JLC should know that teams aren't going to be honest about player acquisition. It would be bad business.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 07-22-2008 01:51 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;458464]I don't think we could have been hit with any tampering charges when it comes to Taylor, because tampering would consist of talking to a guy when he's under contract. That's not what Vinny was doing, he wasn't talking to Taylor, he was talking to Parcells about trading for Taylor. Which is perfectly legal in the NFL world.[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong, but I thought that tampering encompasses any statements which suggest that a team is interested in a player under contract with another team. I think the rationale for that broad construction of the concept of tampering is that if a player is thinking about holding out unless he is traded, public expressions of interest in trading for that player would only encourage him to hold out. Had Vinny had told the press that the Redskins are trying to trade for Taylor, they would have expressed an interest in acquiring a player under contract with another team.

saden1 07-22-2008 02:03 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
Justin Tryon seems to have swagger to him. He's already yapping on the field like Smoot. Plus he seems to be doing well on the [I]practice[/I] field.

That Guy 07-22-2008 02:44 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=saden1;458474]Justin Tryon seems to have swagger to him. He's already yapping on the field like Smoot. Plus he seems to be doing well on the [I]practice[/I] field.[/quote]

he's been doing that since draft day. confidence is definitely not a problem.


and yeah, generally NFL teams don't talk about players under contract to other teams (publicly) because THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO.

If you're going to try and pin it to the FO, pointless whining a pretty weak approach.

Slingin Sammy 33 07-22-2008 03:55 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=hesscl34;458443]JC's not happy with his own performance in practice, he said it himself... he let's the pressure get to him too much and over thinks. I hope you are right and he'll work out of it... but if not then the right thing to do is pull the plug before we are needing 6 straights wins to make the playoffs....[/quote]
IMO the struggles he's having are still thinking about the reads too much and not trusting his own decsion-making yet. He's probably making the right read, but is still hesitating on pulling the trigger slightly. This will throw off the timing in the WCO. Give Zorn & JC the benefit of the doubt, and next week I'll bet we see a much improved and more consistent JC. JC's a hard worker and for the first time in his NFL career he has a good QB coach, who has played the position at the NFL level.

Collins is not the answer. JC would need to play pretty awful for me to pull him in favor of Collins.

MTK 07-22-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=saden1;458474]Justin Tryon seems to have swagger to him. He's already yapping on the field like Smoot. Plus he seems to be doing well on the [I]practice[/I] field.[/quote]

Dude has a TON of swagger, and he seems to be backing it up so far. He could be a nice find.

hesscl34 07-22-2008 05:01 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;458517]IMO the struggles he's having are still thinking about the reads too much and not trusting his own decsion-making yet. He's probably making the right read, but is still hesitating on pulling the trigger slightly. This will throw off the timing in the WCO. Give Zorn & JC the benefit of the doubt, and next week I'll bet we see a much improved and more consistent JC. JC's a hard worker and for the first time in his NFL career he has a good QB coach, who has played the position at the NFL level.

Collins is not the answer. JC would need to play pretty awful for me to pull him in favor of Collins.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The undying faith you all have in him really surprises me considering his inconsistent throwing and lack of confidence. Anyway, my original post said I was sick of the excuses every time JC stinks it up. I didnt post to have a discussion about who I think should be our QB thats a discussion well save for later.[/FONT][/COLOR]

MTK 07-22-2008 05:22 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
Who has undying faith?? :doh:

All I'm saying is we haven't seen enough of him to make any firm judgments. You've gotta give the guy a fair shot.

It's day 3 of camp in a new system and you're already hinting at a QB change?

C'mon.

GMScud 07-22-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;458407]And I thought due to potential charges of tampering Vinny was well within his rights to say they weren't interested at that time. That JLC article just seems like sour grapes.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds like someone is annoyed he didn't catch wind of it before it happened. Boo hoo JLC.

jgalecpa 07-22-2008 05:51 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;458546]Who has undying faith?? :doh:

All I'm saying is we haven't seen enough of him to make any firm judgments. You've gotta give the guy a fair shot.

It's day 3 of camp in a new system and you're already hinting at a QB change?

C'mon.[/quote]


Not yet, But so far he has played in 20 games over two seasons.

Year one he played 7 games and his QB rating was 76.5. Not great.

Next year he played 13 games and his qb raiting was virtually unchanged at 77.6, even though he went through the entire training camp as the designated starter.

His rating was actually higher in Losses than wins (77.8 : 77.3).

His rating was abysmal in games close and late (51.0).

I'm starting to see a pattern, that I hope the next 16 games changes.

This is definitely a "put up or shut up" year for him.

J-Dawg

Slingin Sammy 33 07-22-2008 06:23 PM

Re: Non-Jason Taylor News (from Redskins Blog)
 
[quote=jgalecpa;458557]Not yet, But so far he has played in 20 games over two seasons.

Year one he played 7 games and his QB rating was 76.5. Not great.

Next year he played 13 games and his qb raiting was virtually unchanged at 77.6, even though he went through the entire training camp as the designated starter.

His rating was actually higher in Losses than wins (77.8 : 77.3).

His rating was abysmal in games close and late (51.0).

I'm starting to see a pattern, that I hope the next 16 games changes.

This is definitely a "put up or shut up" year for him.

J-Dawg[/quote]
I posted this back in May. We definitely agree that this is a "put up or shut up" year for JC though.

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