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rstone1979 07-25-2008 02:47 PM

All experts picking us to finish last in division
 
What is up with all of the "experts" picking us to finish last in the division? i find myself screaming at sirius nfl radio everytime they talk about how much better all the other teams are and how we will suck. They say all the other teams are so much better and made so many strides in the off season. They dont know what they are talking about. I dont neccessarily think we will win the division but I sure dont think we will finish last. Only time will tell

Go Skins, prove all these experts wrong!!

LandrySlice 07-25-2008 02:52 PM

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[QUOTE=rstone1979;459291]What is up with all of the "experts" picking us to finish last in the division? i find myself screaming at sirius nfl radio everytime they talk about how much better all the other teams are and how we will suck. They say all the other teams are so much better and made so many strides in the off season. They dont know what they are talking about. I dont neccessarily think we will win the division but I sure dont think we will finish last. Only time will tell

Go Skins, prove all these experts wrong!![/QUOTE]

I like it when the experts hate on DC, it keeps us off the radar, and dosen't put as much pressure on the team. I think personally three NFC east teams make the post season, and the odd team out will be!!!! GIANTS

GoSkins! 07-25-2008 02:59 PM

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last year the experts thought the Giants would tank without Tiki Barber and Coughlin would be looking for a new job. They just don't like to bring that up when they are making predictions for this year. It makes them look silly. Like witchdoctors of the NFL....

Unless you can predict injuries you can't predict anything in the NFL.... except maybe that the Lions will find a way to suck.

irish 07-25-2008 03:01 PM

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I can see the Skins winning the division and I can see them finishing last. IMO it all depends on JC and if he can make to offense score points.

redsk1 07-25-2008 03:12 PM

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Well you've got to rank NY & Dal above us. They finished better than us last year and don't have as many questions. No brainer there.

Philly? There QB is more highly regarded than ours. They have been in the same offensive and defensive system for what seems like 10 yrs now. They've got, perhaps, one of the top 5 players in the league, Westbrook. The one question is can D McNabb stay healthy?

The skins...many questions. I think it's fair for us to be picked finishing last. I think we have a better team than that. I also think we've got a good shot at the playoffs this year.

The way i see it:

1st: Dal
2nd: Was
3rd: Philly
4th: Gmen

The Gmen got on a major role late last year. Prior to that they were an average team. I think they'll come back to reality. It's going to be tough going for all in the best league top to bottom in the NFL.

MTK 07-25-2008 03:12 PM

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I've heard some analysts predict the Skins could be a sleeper team.

Don't sweat the predictions too much. Every year there are plenty of teams that come out of nowhere and plenty of teams that tank. It's like the experts just take last year's finish and based their predictions off that. Nobody goes out on a limb.

LandrySlice 07-25-2008 03:37 PM

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My sleeper team this year is The Panthers, mark that in the books!

Lady Brave 07-25-2008 03:46 PM

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You would think Skins fans would get used to this. Then again, most of today's fanbase loves wallowing in indignation.

freddyg12 07-25-2008 04:00 PM

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[quote=Lady Brave;459313]You would think Skins fans would get used to this. Then again, most of today's fanbase loves wallowing in indignation.[/quote]

well put, I think most of us take after the seeminly always disrespected athletes who love to wax vindictive, "nobody thought we could do it" "they never give us any respect" and so on.

The ironic thing about predictions is that now the nfl is so huge yet so unpredictable. There are more people to listen to these predictions, i.e. us, even though they're nowhere near as reliable as say DR. Z was back in the 80s.

I think picking the skins last is a safe prediction given the changes. Last could be 8-8 like Philly was last year when they were the only nfc east team not in the playoffs. You just can't consistently accurately pick the middle of the pack nfl teams these days.

MPNRedskins 07-25-2008 04:13 PM

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"F" the so-called experts. They think they know everything and I'm sure they've done their research to give us their educated picks. However, like one of the other members pointed out on here, the experts picked the Giants to suck and look what happened to them. I'm not saying it's going to be a Giants-like season for us this year, but I do believe we will be contenders for the division and make the playoffs.

LandrySlice 07-25-2008 04:43 PM

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well said! I know that most of us are big homers on here, but I don't pay much attention to the national coverage we get, I listen to facts and make my own judgments. At the end of the day, its not what people think or hope, its what actually happened. So let's wait and see1

Giantone 07-25-2008 04:58 PM

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[quote=GoSkins!;459295]last year the experts thought the Giants would tank without Tiki Barber and Coughlin would be looking for a new job. They just don't like to bring that up when they are making predictions for this year. It makes them look silly. Like witchdoctors of the NFL..[/quote]

You should see what they were saying after we started 0-2 and gave up 80 points in 2 games..........:censored:

WaldSkins 07-25-2008 05:13 PM

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[QUOTE=redsk1;459300][B]Well you've got to rank NY & Dal above us. They finished better than us last year and don't have as many questions. No brainer there. [/B]

Philly? There QB is more highly regarded than ours. They have been in the same offensive and defensive system for what seems like 10 yrs now. They've got, perhaps, one of the top 5 players in the league, Westbrook. The one question is can D McNabb stay healthy?

The skins...many questions. I think it's fair for us to be picked finishing last. I think we have a better team than that. I also think we've got a good shot at the playoffs this year.

The way i see it:

1st: Dal
2nd: Was
3rd: Philly
[B]4th: Gmen[/B]

[B]The Gmen got on a major role late last year. Prior to that they were an average team. I think they'll come back to reality. It's going to be tough going for all in the best league top to bottom in the NFL.[/QUOTE]
[/B]

So are they going to be better then us this year and finish behind us in the standings?

Coff 07-25-2008 05:34 PM

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[quote=redsk1;459300]Well you've got to rank NY & Dal above us. They finished better than us last year and don't have as many questions. No brainer there.

Philly? There QB is more highly regarded than ours. They have been in the same offensive and defensive system for what seems like 10 yrs now. They've got, perhaps, one of the top 5 players in the league, Westbrook. The one question is can D McNabb stay healthy?

The skins...many questions. I think it's fair for us to be picked finishing last. I think we have a better team than that. I also think we've got a good shot at the playoffs this year.

[/quote]

Very good points. There are arguments for just about all teams other than Dallas finishing last, but ultimately only one team will and it makes as much sense to pick the Skins to finish in the basement as the Eagles or Giants. I don't take offense to it. I suspect that most experts who pick the Skins to finish last would not be surprised at all if they didn't. It's a tough division to call, and without question the most competitive from top to bottom in football.

Coff 07-25-2008 05:38 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;459330][/b]

So are they going to be better then us this year and finish behind us in the standings?[/quote]

That's not really what he's saying. He's basically saying that of course experts would likely predict the Giants to finish ahead for those reasons, but he feels that the run they went on is not likely to be repeated. I agree with that; in addition they will be suffering from the SB hangover, which hurts a lot of teams. I mean no disrespect to the Giants (although I hate them), just that it's tough to work up to that level after having accomplished the ultimate goal.

BringBackJoeT 07-25-2008 05:40 PM

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[QUOTE=Coff;459333]Very good points. There are arguments for just about all teams other than Dallas finishing last, but ultimately only one team will and it makes as much sense to pick the Skins to finish in the basement as the Eagles or Giants. I don't take offense to it. I suspect that most experts who pick the Skins to finish last would not be surprised at all if they didn't. It's a tough division to call, and without question the most competitive from top to bottom in football.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. The few preseason rankings I've seen do indeed have NY, Philly and Dallas ranked above us, but we're still in the top half of the teams in those polls. The bottom line is that those experts (we'll call them that for now) all have respect for this team, even if they're not sure that we quite measure up to the rest of the teams in the division.

Gtothearry 07-25-2008 06:21 PM

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There are no EXPERTS in picking preseason rankings. By the end of the season everyone realizes that. However, we keep beleiving them each year.:spank:

redsk1 07-25-2008 06:44 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;459330][/b]

So are they going to be better then us this year and finish behind us in the standings?[/quote]

No, the last part is my own opinion. The first part is why I can see the "experts" picking us last.

WaldSkins 07-25-2008 08:52 PM

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Oh Ok. Sorry for the confusion.

Skins fan 44 07-25-2008 08:54 PM

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It is preseason. While I hate to see the Skins get little respect we are playing in the NFC East. You can pretty much put them in a hat and draw who is going to win the division; that way you would have as much as anyone with predicting the real out come.

Valleyranchgirl 07-25-2008 08:55 PM

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Even if the skins finish last you may still have a better record than the NFC West champion.
I am going to pick Philly if they don't give Westbrook a new contract.
If they do I will pick the Giants because they lost the heart of their team and I would love to see who takes that place.

Ruhskins 07-25-2008 10:41 PM

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I'll believe the expert that says that the NFC is a toss up, because it is...here are reasons why each team can be a good team or a bad team....and I don't think anyone can predict either way:

Cowboys
Good: Talented team, good QB, has been a playoff team
Bad: T.O/Pacman blows up, they'll win but will be 1 and done in the playoffs and Wade gets fire...enter Garrett

Eagles
Good: Healthy McNabb, Westbrook is still around, A. Samuels improves their secondary
Bad: McNabb goes down

Giant
Good: They get lucky again
Bad: Their luck runs out

Redskins
Good: JC and the offense do a good job, defense keeps it up
Bad: We have the same anemic offense

vaoutlaws2006 07-25-2008 10:50 PM

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[quote=LandrySlice;459311]My sleeper team this year is The Panthers, mark that in the books![/quote]


It all hinges on the health at qb for them beyond delhomme who do they have matt moore? Keep in mind delhomme is coming off tommy john surgery and he really hasnt tested that arm...but i do agree if he is healthy the panthers are a definite sleeper. But on us...i agree with others in here i like being under the radar and I think we will surprise many if JC can get a good handle of this offense and if zorn really has "it" when it comes to being a head coach.

prinzeofmoval 07-25-2008 11:26 PM

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I actually like when we're under the radar..Don't give us credit let us earn it by destroying those teams like we did the giants and cowboys last year. At the end of the season then we'll see..Its opnion not fact.

Lady Brave 07-25-2008 11:47 PM

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Not that I care about predictions, but why should Philly be ranked higher than us? Every statement made about the Eagles is always preceded with "if McNabb stays healthy". McNabb's biggest gripe was that he didn't have anyone to throw to. Has their receiver situation been addressed? If not, then what off-season moves have they made that would indicate any improvement from last year?

freddyg12 07-26-2008 08:22 AM

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[quote=Lady Brave;459400]Not that I care about predictions, but why should Philly be ranked higher than us? Every statement made about the Eagles is always preceded with "if McNabb stays healthy". McNabb's biggest gripe was that he didn't have anyone to throw to. Has their receiver situation been addressed? If not, then what off-season moves have they made that would indicate any improvement from last year?[/quote]

Asante Samuel. Other than that I think most look at last year as McNabb's healing & this year he should be back to normal. Plus they finished strong & have a great coaching staff, whereas Zorn is unproven.

BleedBurgundy 07-26-2008 09:56 AM

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I don't know what else everyone expects? The Giants won the f'ing superbowl last year, that gets them top billing this year. Next, Dallas and then Phil. New coach, new system... If I were going to make an unbiased guess on how it would shake out, that's probably how I would go too. I HOPE it's more like 1)WAS, 2)NYG, 3)PHI and 4)Dallas finishing 0-16 but that's all it is, hope.

schndr_tdd 07-26-2008 09:19 PM

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good!!

rypper11 07-27-2008 08:38 AM

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[quote=LandrySlice;459311]My sleeper team this year is The Panthers, mark that in the books![/quote]

If you consider going 7-9 but winning the horrible NFC South as sleeper, then maybe. The Panthers were below average last year and got worse.

GINeric 07-27-2008 10:43 AM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;459326]You should see what they were saying after we started 0-2 and gave up 80 points in 2 games..........:censored:[/QUOTE]You should see what would have happened had all NFC East teams stayed healthy!

Giantone 07-27-2008 05:22 PM

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[quote=GINeric;459536]You should see what would have happened had all NFC East teams stayed healthy![/quote]


LOL....want some cheese with your whine,the Giants had injuries also.Go get T.O. a hankie!

Giantone 07-27-2008 05:26 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;459377]

Cowboys
Good: Talented team, good QB, has been a playoff team
Bad: T.O/Pacman blows up, they'll win but will be 1 and done in the playoffs and Wade gets fire...enter Garrett
[/quote]

If the cowgirls don't win don't be so sure about Garrett,he's been running the O for 2 years if they fail he might not look so good and get can with the fat laird who is the coach now.They have talent but not a team ,let them win a playoff game before they are crowned.

hesscl34 07-27-2008 06:46 PM

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Any given Sunday...

Giantone 07-27-2008 08:18 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;459576]Any given Sunday...[/quote]



Agreed ,if you win they all shut up.I've seen them say you guys ,us, and the Eagles.................to hell with "them".

Cowell 07-28-2008 12:24 AM

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What I'm really surprised by is the fact that people are still shocked that we keep getting put in last place. This is nothing new. We are going to keep getting put at the bottom until we show that we are consistently good.


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