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jsarno 08-11-2008 05:51 PM

Dem. John Edwards admits to affair, political career possibly over
 
"Family Values" man admits to affair.
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401581,00.html]FOXNews.com - Inside John Edwards' Admission to an Extramarital Affair - Greta Van Susteren | On The Record With Greta[/url]

BleedBurgundy 08-11-2008 06:14 PM

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Honestly, I could care less about how many women any politician sleeps with so long as they stay out of bed with lobbyists.

dmek25 08-11-2008 06:19 PM

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i hear ya, BB. ill tell you what, Edwards has a helluva set of balls though. to try and get the nomination, when he knew this was hanging over him.

saden1 08-11-2008 07:01 PM

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I feel bad Elizabeth Edwards. Note to John Edward, if you're going to have an affair make sure it's not with a donkey for god sake.

jsarno 08-11-2008 07:02 PM

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;463665]Honestly, I could care less about how many women any politician sleeps with so long as they stay out of bed with lobbyists.[/QUOTE]

You mean those politicians exist?

SmootSmack 08-11-2008 10:46 PM

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I was sort of turned off especially by Edwards saying his wife's cancer was in remission when the affair began, as if that made it ok

FRPLG 08-12-2008 12:57 AM

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Edwards is and has been a slimeball. Politics aside he is donkey. Dems can thank their lucky prayers he didn't get the nom. I think Clinton and Obama are much more decent people.

dmek25 08-12-2008 09:00 AM

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do you think Edwards and Obama were in it together? if Clinton wins Iowa, instead of Edwards, things might look pretty different right now

MTK 08-12-2008 10:56 AM

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McCain is no saint either. Didn't he have an affair and left his wife for a younger woman?

hesscl34 08-12-2008 11:29 AM

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[quote=dmek25;463667]i hear ya, BB. ill tell you what, Edwards has a helluva set of balls though. to try and get the nomination, when he knew this was hanging over him.[/quote]

One of his quotes "I'm human, not a Ken doll"... okey dokey then.

Monkeydad 08-12-2008 12:32 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;463767]McCain is no saint either. Didn't he have an affair and left his wife for a younger woman?[/quote]

No, that story was found to be fabricated by the NY Times.

[url=http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/24/new-york-times-ombudsman-faults-paper-on-mccain-romance-story/]New York Times Ombudsman Faults Paper on McCain Romance Story - America’s Election HQ[/url]
[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8614.html]McCain camp vows to 'go to war' with NYT - Jonathan Martin and Michael Calderone - Politico.com[/url]
[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/02/21/2008-02-21_john_mccain_says_affair_allegations_abso.html]'We're very disappointed in the New York Times,' says wife[/url]
[url=http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/22/nation/na-campaign22]McCain denies romantic or improper relationship with lobbyist - Los Angeles Times[/url]


Nice, the "but I'm not the only one" argument. That's something little children cry when they get caught.

It doesn't make Edwards' actions OK. Cheating on his wife while she's battling cancer? You can't get much lower than that, but from his ambulance-chasing career, we already knew he had no morals.

MTK 08-12-2008 12:39 PM

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I'm not defending Edwards at all, I wasn't a big fan of his even before this. Just pointing out that there are plenty of dopes on both sides of the fence.

MTK 08-12-2008 12:43 PM

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Sounds like McCain himself has admitted to having affairs in his books

[URL="http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html"]Arizona, the early years[/URL]

saden1 08-12-2008 01:23 PM

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McCain was banging his current wife Cindy while he was in the process of a divorce. The sad part was his wife was in an even worse situation than Elizabeth Edwards when he gave her her walking papers. I can not in good conscious respect a man who leaves his wife after a debilitating car accidents.

F*ck you Mr. McCain and Mr. Edwards.

redsk1 08-12-2008 03:05 PM

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JFK had an affair too. I think many of them.

Look, we don't really know any of these guys. Not condoning cheating by any means but I'm not going to stand here and throw stones at them. They have to live w/ their mistakes.

You can call them hypocrites, but if they do a great job for our country and gov't i'm happy.

redsk1 08-12-2008 03:24 PM

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Let me add to that last post....within reason.

BleedBurgundy 08-12-2008 03:25 PM

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Honestly, call me immoral, but give me a President that can manage our economy at the same time as intelligently handling our foreign policy and he/she/it can sleep with whomever he/she/it chooses. Throw in a real plan for fixing social security and balancing the budget and I'll chip in on the escort service.

SmootSmack 08-12-2008 04:56 PM

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I think people would probably respond a bit differently if Edwards came right out when this was first brought up a couple of years ago and said "Yes, I made a mistake. I've told my wife and family. It's been a difficult process but we're working through it" Instead of the repeated denials. I think people are more likely to "trust"/forgive a politician who cheats than one who lies.

firstdown 08-13-2008 09:40 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;463805]Sounds like McCain himself has admitted to having affairs in his books

[URL="http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html"]Arizona, the early years[/URL][/quote]

Oh, so now its back on McCain. Don't you say the same thing when others say stuff like Clinton got this mess started or if Clinton would have just done the job etc... ?

Monkeydad 08-13-2008 10:47 AM

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John Edwards offered some advice to Russia in their conflict with Georgia:

"Russia better pull out quickly or they will be in trouble."

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-13-2008 10:52 AM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;464022]Oh, so now its back on McCain. Don't you say the same thing when others say stuff like Clinton got this mess started or if Clinton would have just done the job etc... ?[/QUOTE]

I don't think Matty was trying to attack McCain. I think he was just saying that politicians from both parties fool around.

MTK 08-13-2008 10:53 AM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;464062]I don't think Matty was trying to attack McCain. I think he was just saying that politicians from both parties fool around.[/quote]

Thank you for getting my simple point.

jsarno 08-13-2008 11:36 AM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;464062]I don't think Matty was trying to attack McCain. I think he was just saying that politicians from both parties fool around.[/QUOTE]

Which IS an attack on McCain. :doh:

A lot do fool around, if I recall like 70% of the country does it, but very, very view base their platform on "family values" like Edwards.

Like firstdown illuded to, if we're talking about some republican and Clinton is brought up for instance, people, including Matty, get upset for not sticking with the subject and making it a political war. This is not a McCain debate, this is about Edwards who is supposed to be a "morals leader". So it doesn't really matter what Matty is trying to say, it matters that he is missing the point and trying to lessen what Edwards did.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-13-2008 11:48 AM

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[QUOTE=jsarno;464078]A lot do fool around, if I recall like 70% of the country does it, but very, very view base their platform on "family values" like Edwards.[/QUOTE]

I don't recall Edwards basing his platform on "family values." He was known for supposedly championing the rights of the poor. Might he have mentioned "family values" in speeches? Sure, but he didn't base his career on it. I personally think he's a [B]massive[/B] douche bag, but his affair isn't a big deal. I could care less what politician does with his pecker.

Also, I think it's awesome how you always say that people are "missing the point" whenever they disagree with you. :goodjob:

jsarno 08-13-2008 11:58 AM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;464091]I don't recall Edwards basing his platform on "family values." He was known for supposedly championing the rights of the poor. Might he have mentioned "family values" in speeches? Sure, but he didn't base his career on it. I personally think he's a [B]massive[/B] douche bag, but his affair isn't a big deal. [b]I could care less what politician does with his pecker.[/b][/quote]

LOL.

[quote]Also, I think it's awesome how you always say that people are "missing the point" whenever they disagree with you. :goodjob:[/QUOTE]

Nope, just when they are. If you take a gander at the thread title, do you happen to notice there is a name missing up there...like McCain for instance? So does EVERY political comment have to include a view and slam from the opposite side? I'm sure people could turn this into an Obama issue too if you'd like.

ps- stop assuming. I am not disagreeing with what he's saying, far from it actually, he's just off point. This isn't about McCain, or Obama, or Clinton. It's about Edwards. They all could have their own respective threads about things they have done wrong. If you think for one second that Matty wasn't trying to take a jab at McCain, well, I have ocean front property I can sell you.

MTK 08-13-2008 12:03 PM

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[quote=jsarno;464078]Which IS an attack on McCain. :doh:

A lot do fool around, if I recall like 70% of the country does it, but very, very view base their platform on "family values" like Edwards.

Like firstdown illuded to, if we're talking about some republican and Clinton is brought up for instance, people, including Matty, get upset for not sticking with the subject and making it a political war. This is not a McCain debate, this is about Edwards who is supposed to be a "morals leader". [B]So it doesn't really matter what Matty is trying to say, it matters that he is missing the point and trying to lessen what Edwards did[/B].[/quote]

Um no, good try but you're really reading too far into what my point was. Thanks for trying to tell me what I'm trying to say though. My intent was not to bicker across party lines and say your guy did it too.

As I said before I wasn't a fan of Edwards to begin with. My simple point is this crap happens all the time on both sides and too much is made of it on both sides. Personally it's not a huge deal to me whether Edwards or McCain are scumbags to their wives. Others have echoed this same view here.

KLHJ2 08-13-2008 12:09 PM

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I was a scumbag to their wives for quite some time. It means nothing really.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-13-2008 12:10 PM

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[QUOTE=jsarno;464098]So does EVERY political comment have to include a view and slam from the opposite side?[/QUOTE]

You're not exactly one to bite your tongue when someone takes a potshot at the right. But whatever.

MTK 08-13-2008 12:16 PM

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[quote=jsarno;464098]LOL.



Nope, just when they are. If you take a gander at the thread title, do you happen to notice there is a name missing up there...like McCain for instance? So does EVERY political comment have to include a view and slam from the opposite side? I'm sure people could turn this into an Obama issue too if you'd like.

[B]ps- stop assuming[/B]. I am not disagreeing with what he's saying, far from it actually, he's just off point. This isn't about McCain, or Obama, or Clinton. It's about Edwards. They all could have their own respective threads about things they have done wrong. [B]If you think for one second that Matty wasn't trying to take a jab at McCain, well, I have ocean front property I can sell you[/B].[/quote]

The irony here is hilarious.

hesscl34 08-13-2008 12:25 PM

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Only Dems cheat on their wives... (LOL).. Just kidding!..

firstdown 08-13-2008 01:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;464064]Thank you for getting my simple point.[/quote]
But you call us out when we say Clinton was part of a problem and stuff like that. Which was my point.

70Chip 08-13-2008 01:22 PM

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I can't believe a lawyer would cheat on his wife. I'm going to have to take some time to re-evaluate my shaken worldview.

But seriously, Edwards political career was over a long time ago anyway.

Two failed runs for the nomination should be the limit for serious candidates. After that you're basically in Joe Biden territory.

MTK 08-13-2008 01:31 PM

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[quote=firstdown;464122]But you call us out when we say Clinton was part of a problem and stuff like that. Which was my point.[/quote]

Apples and oranges. I'm at least sticking to the general topic of cheating politicians. When we're talking about issues involving the current administration and you just want to keep piling it back on previous administrations I just think that's lame and passing the buck.

GhettoDogAllStars 08-13-2008 01:42 PM

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I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.

SmootSmack 08-13-2008 01:43 PM

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[QUOTE=Buster;464059]John Edwards offered some advice to Russia in their conflict with Georgia:

"Russia better pull out quickly or they will be in trouble."[/QUOTE]

LOL. Shame that this post got lost in the midst of everything else

Lady Brave 08-13-2008 01:53 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;464135]I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.[/quote]
Thank you.

Anyone who assumes a position of leadership should be held to a higher standard. To whom much is given, much is required.

MTK 08-13-2008 02:00 PM

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Perhaps it is a shame that in today's society this stuff has become so common that it doesn't even bother us. Yeah it's a knock on their character, but everyone makes mistakes both big and small. It's how they recover from it that is telling to me.

dmek25 08-13-2008 02:04 PM

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[quote=Lady Brave;464139]Thank you.

Anyone who assumes a position of leadership should be held to a higher standard. To whom much is given, much is required.[/quote]
i don't know if i agree with this. people look at J.F.K as a great leader. that man fooled around more then alittle. i think there are 2 separate issues. i think great leaders don't have to be morally perfect. as long as they can make good, crisp decisions, in time of stress. im not sure where the weak character, as someone else said, comes into play

jsarno 08-13-2008 02:04 PM

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[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;464135]I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.[/QUOTE]

I think most of us do care. But as matty pointed out, we are used to it. It's virtually impossible to be a politician with high character.

GhettoDogAllStars 08-13-2008 02:25 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;464142]Perhaps it is a shame that in today's society this stuff has become so common that it doesn't even bother us. Yeah it's a knock on their character, but everyone makes mistakes both big and small. [b]It's how they recover from it that is telling to me.[/b][/QUOTE]

You're right. Ultimately, the true test of a person's character is how they react to adversity, and how they overcome their mistakes. I guess cheating on my wife is just a mistake that I would never make. I'm not insinuating any of you guys would do that. There are just some things that are really hard to forgive.

As for a President's character, I want them to do the "right" thing. The morally right thing -- not the right thing for America. It may sound silly, but I'd much rather people base their decisions on morals rather than nationalism, security, etc. -- even if it meant trouble for the country. Unfortunately, that is not how government is designed to work.


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