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BeastsoftheNFCeast 08-25-2008 02:43 PM

When will Jansen go?
 
Ive been sick of this guy for the past two years, he used to be a beast, but now just cant cut it (blame it on injuries or age, i really dont care). The guy has a monster contract (25 mil, 15 guaranteed over the next 4 years), and is always either hurt or playing like shit (at least in pass protection). If we are gonna have a shitty starter, we should be paying him a shitty salary. When do you guys think that Jansen will go?

Mattyk 08-25-2008 02:45 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
Well he was hurt last year, not sure why you would hate him for that. And the year before he battled through a bunch of different injuries and was still solid playing with broken thumbs.

If there's not a better option then he should remain the starter. I don't think Heyer is ready to overtake him just yet.

My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town?

firstdown 08-25-2008 02:49 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
I agree Matty right now what other choice do we have and the season has not even started yet. Lets give him a few games before we start kicking him out of town.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-25-2008 02:53 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;467655]Well he was hurt last year, not sure why you would hate him for that. And the year before he battled through a bunch of different injuries and was still solid playing with broken thumbs.

If there's not a better option then he should remain the starter. I don't think Heyer is ready to overtake him just yet.

My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town?[/QUOTE]

Jansen has been dealt a series of bad cards, he's a "core Redskin" and, in his heyday, was awesome. But, I've got to agree that he just looks like he is about washed up. It seems like only yesterday he was dominant, when in reality [I]he hasn't been playing at a high level since 2003[/I]. In 2004 he was on IR, in 2005 he struggled and we all attributed it to his recovery but he also struggled in 2006, and he was on IR for the 2007 season.

He's still a good road-grading RT, but he just looks old and slow in pass protection. He's the best RT we have, but we should find a new starter and Jansen should be relegated to back-up duty in 2009 if he doesn't have a good season.

redsk1 08-25-2008 02:58 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;467653]Ive been sick of this guy for the past two years, he used to be a beast, but now just cant cut it (blame it on injuries or age, i really dont care). The guy has a monster contract (25 mil, 15 guaranteed over the next 4 years), and is always either hurt or playing like shit (at least in pass protection). If we are gonna have a shitty starter, we should be paying him a shitty salary. When do you guys think that Jansen will go?[/quote]

Why are you mad at him for his contract? Should he rip up his contract and suggest one that pays him much less?

Jansen has been a real solid, real good tackle for many years. Give him a little time. He's coming off major injuries. No doubt he's getting older, but he could still have a couple of solid years left.

Shouldn't you give the longest tenured Redskins who's played thru major injuries the benefit of the doubt instead of throwing him under the bus? I'm not saying we should throw someone out there that's a liability to the team, but JJ is a proven NFL starter in this league.

irish 08-25-2008 03:05 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
The really sad part is that he is the best RT the Skins have right now. The Skins dont have anyone better so he's the guy they gotta go with until he gets injured again.

heybigstar 08-25-2008 03:05 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
I realize Jon Jansen has been a loyal member to this team for a long time, but he has had some devastating injuries - especially the one last year. He seems to be injury prone now and on the down, downside of his career and is below the average starting RT in our division. [U] I hope I am proved wrong[/U], but it seems that only out of loyalty would he stay on the roster past this season.

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2008 03:07 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
He'll come through and shut all the naysayers up. The guy hasn't even played in a regular season and they are already calling for his and others heads.

Skinz4life 08-25-2008 03:18 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
He's been one of my favorites for a long time and I hope he's able to rebound. He has struggled in the preseason, but he's a true pro and I think that he'll be fine once the season starts.

jamf 08-25-2008 03:26 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;467655]
My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town?[/QUOTE]

Because he plays a position that can get franchise players killed if he misses a block.

I like jansen more than Samuels but you have to keep an eye on him. He is clearly struggling. Hopefully it's just rust and he can rebound this year.

Slingin Sammy 33 08-25-2008 03:44 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;467655]My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town?[/quote]
Big contract probably.

I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm)

There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.

jsnyder03 08-25-2008 04:04 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
I have been a big fan of the original "Rock" (before Cartright came) as a guy who played every game and, even as a rookie, handed Strahan admirably. But I must agree that it haa been quite a while since he performed like a stud.

With his big salary, you can't help but wonder if that $ might be better spent elsewhere. However, I know we can't free ourselves of his contract. There is about a $14m release fee this year (per crazy canuck).

I wonder if we can get creative NEXT year. If he were to retire could we recoup that signing bonus money and then hire him as an expenses o-line coach? His work ethic and lockerroom presence are great, just not his on field performce these days.

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2008 04:28 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
What a hater thread. Jansen deserves every chance to come back and see how he plays. Our line has been decent and when Jansen and Samuels are on top of their game it is among the best. Again, with out hating on Campbell to bad, the problem is getting rid of the ball in 3 seconds, not pass protecting for 10.

firstdown 08-25-2008 04:36 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;467680]Big contract probably.

I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm)

There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.[/quote]
People have been hitting on Jansen sense preaseason started so its not just this one game. If I'm correct Samuels name was only called once when Peppers ran right through him but there could have been more.

jgalecpa 08-25-2008 04:39 PM

Re: When will Jansen go?
 
I try to ignore the players' contract in evaluating them, especially after the 53 man roster has been set.

The best player should play, regardless of their pay.

If he is the best we have for now, play him.

History does show he is injury prone, no matter how well he plays when he's not hurt.

That has to be a determinant in how long we keep him around after this year.

I'd say if he's out more than 4 games this year with injuries, he won't be around next year.

J-Dawg.


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