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hesscl34 09-16-2008 10:56 AM

2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=black][B]JOHN McCAIN[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] vs


[B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=black][B]BARAK OBAMA[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Favors new drilling offshore US [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Served in the US Armed Forces [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Amount of time served in the US Senate [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain 22 YEARS [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama 173 DAYS [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Will institute a socialized national health care plan [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]McCain No [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Supports gun ownership rights [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]McCain Yes [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Supports homosexual marriage [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Obama Yes [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Voted against making English the official language [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]McCain No [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Obama Yes [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]CAPITAL GAINS TAX[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]MCCAIN [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]OBAMA [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]28% on profit from ALL home sales. ([I][U][I]How does this affect you?[/I][/U][/I] If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]DIVIDEND TAX[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]MCCAIN [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]15% (no change) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]OBAMA [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]39.6% - [I][I](How will this affect you?[/I][/I] If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.') [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]INCOME TAX[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]MCCAIN [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black](no changes) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Single making 30K - tax $4,500[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Single making 50K - tax $12,500[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Single making 75K - tax $18,750[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 60K- tax $9,000[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 75K - tax $18,750[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 125K - tax $31,250 [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Single making 30K - tax $8,400[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Single making 50K - tax $14,000[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Single making 75K - tax $23,250[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 60K - tax $16,800[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 75K - tax $21,000[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Married making 125K - tax $38,750[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black]Under Obama, your taxes could almost double! [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]INHERITANCE TAX[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]MCCAIN [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]OBAMA [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Restore the inheritance tax [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!! [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]






[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][U][COLOR=red][COLOR=red][B]You can verify the above at the following web sites[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=red][COLOR=red]: [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black][URL="http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html[/COLOR][/URL] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][URL="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html[/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][URL="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html"]

[/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][URL="http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes[/COLOR][/URL] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][URL="http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html%A0"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html [/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][URL="http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html%A0"]

[/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/[/COLOR][/URL] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/[/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/"]

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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]I received this via email.. Thoughts?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

saden1 09-16-2008 11:39 AM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
You guys are [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/25122-if-the-election-was-held-today-6.html#post475281"]unbelievable[/URL]. Once again you lost me at "Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it. " Verbicide is uncool.

In the future, please, I beg of you, actually verify the b.s. you post because none of the links given support your tax claims.

saden1 09-16-2008 11:45 AM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
If you appreciate and love the truth [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html"]seek it[/URL]!

[IMG]http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/06/12/GR2008061200193.gif[/IMG]

DynamiteRave 09-16-2008 11:46 AM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
For the love of God, stop believing everything that comes in your email! The reason they do this garbage is because they know most Americans are too lazy to do their own research. (Obviously).

Get your shit straight.

[url=http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm]Barack Obama on the Issues[/url]

and I'll even post the McCain one.

[url=http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm]John McCain on the Issues[/url]

SmootSmack 09-16-2008 11:52 AM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
While some things in that document are true, I think overall the first clue that you should take the email with a grain of salt and not rely on it is that they don't spell Barack correctly. How reliable a source can you be if you can't take the time to correctly spell a candidate's name?

hesscl34 09-16-2008 11:59 AM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
Don't insult me for the post, and don't insult my intelligence suggesting I believe everything I read. I was posting it because I thought it interesting it is circulating as an email. Sheesh!!! You guys can be a real bunch of a*sholes sometimes....

Slingin Sammy 33 09-16-2008 12:01 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
Looks good to me, I see no problems here.....J/K.

In hess' defense, she's asking for opinions on this, not stating it to be true.

SS's take is spot on.

DynamiteRave 09-16-2008 12:04 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;477433][B]Looks good to me, I see no problems here.....J/K.[/B]

In hess' defense, she's asking for opinions on this, not stating it to be true.

SS's take is spot on.[/quote]

Sometimes I wish I was a Republican. :rofl:

KLHJ2 09-16-2008 12:16 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
Have you ever gone to school one day and realized that someone else was wearing the same exact thing that you were? You spend the rest of the day trying to hide and or avoid everyone you know hoping that no one else notices. Of course you get ratted out by your best friend and you feel awkward because now everyone is pointing and laughing. Yeah.............................

MTK 09-16-2008 12:20 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
I got an email today saying I can stay harder all night long and girls will love it... what do you think guys should I believe it?

saden1 09-16-2008 12:22 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[quote=Mattyk72;477450]I got an email today saying I can stay harder all night long and girls will love it... what do you think guys should I believe it?[/quote]


Go get that shit man, and this [URL="http://www.dvguru.com/2006/10/03/the-dvd-rewinder/"]too[/URL].

MTK 09-16-2008 12:29 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
I keeping winning the lottery too, damn I must be lucky

;)

KLHJ2 09-16-2008 12:30 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[quote=Mattyk72;477450]I got an email today saying I can stay harder all night long and girls will love it... what do you think guys should I believe it?[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Who said anything about believing the email? I received mine from my mother. Heaven forbid that I trust the woman who gave birth to my ass. I thought that she was more intelligent than to just send something without checking it out first. I guess I the apple did not fall far from the tree because I turned around and did the same thing.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I was only trying to provide some insight and possibly some useful information to the users of this sight. My mistake was not researching the information first. My apologies to the Warpath for my negligence and oversight. I will make a better effort to provide only reliable information from now on. That does not mean that I will stop posting my opinion however.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Sorry Guys.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Hey Matty, could you post that add please? JK[/FONT][/COLOR]

Slingin Sammy 33 09-16-2008 01:03 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[quote=saden1;477452]Go get that shit man, and this [URL="http://www.dvguru.com/2006/10/03/the-dvd-rewinder/"]too[/URL].[/quote]
I've been looking for one of those. I've got several DVDs I only watched once. LOL.

12thMan 09-16-2008 01:24 PM

Re: 2008 Pres Candidate Talking Points
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;477428]For the love of God, stop believing everything that comes in your email! The reason they do this garbage is because they know most Americans are too lazy to do their own research. (Obviously).

Get your shit straight.

[URL="http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm"]Barack Obama on the Issues[/URL]

and I'll even post the McCain one.

[URL="http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm"]John McCain on the Issues[/URL][/quote]

It's funny, I think people give more weight to some of these emails, than the actual words and statements that come from the candidates themselves. Amazing.


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