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GTripp0012 09-27-2008 09:14 PM

Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Using the Madden scale (I know, scientific, are we not?), I wanted to put a number on each player, basically where they appear to be based on film over three weeks. I'm using the Madden scale because it's simple and people are familiar with it.

For those unfamiliar with the game, here's how it basically breaks down.

94+ = elite talent who is likely a perennial probowler.
90 = top talent within the context of the team they are on, a player that all gameplans account for.
80 = the "Kitna-Line", basically the lowest level at which a player should expect to keep his starting job. also the level where a backup "deserves to be starting somewhere in the league".
75 = replacement level. these guys deserve to be in this league, but either the team plans for them to improve significantly, or they don't really have a spot in the teams future.
below 75 = incredibly cuttible.

Obviously, I'm speculating a lot on the backups who don't play much, and I refuse to give Malcolm Kelly a ranking because we didn't even see him in the preseason.

Quarterbacks:

Jason Campbell 86, Todd Collins 78, Colt Brennan 78

Running Backs:

Clinton Portis 87, Ladell Betts 83, Rock Cartwright 79

Wide Receivers:

Santana Moss 90, Antwaan Randle El 86, James Thrash 78, Devin Thomas 75, Malcolm Kelly TBD

Tight Ends:

Chris Cooley 92, Todd Yoder 76, Fred Davis 78

Offensive Tackle:

Chris Samuels 94, Stephon Heyer 81, Jon Jansen 81

Offensive Guard:

Pete Kendall 86, Randy Thomas 84, Jason Fabini 83, Chad Rinehart 78

Centers:

Casey Rabach 76, Justin Geisinger 75

Defensive Tackles:

Kedric Golston 86, Corneilius Griffin 85, Anthony Montgomery 82, Lorenzo Alexander 80

Defensive Ends:

Andre Carter 91, Jason Taylor 85, Demetric Evans 80, Erasmus James 79, Chris Wilson 79, Rob Jackson 76

Linebackers:

Rocky McIntosh 86, London Fletcher 86, Marcus Wasington 83, H.B. Blades 83, Alfred Fincher 78, Khary Campbell 74

Cornerbacks:

Carlos Rogers 91, Shawn Springs 86, Fred Smoot 79, Leigh Torrence 78, Justin Tryon 75

Safeties:

LaRon Landry 93, Reed Doughty 81, Chris Horton 80, Kareem Moore 79, Justin Hamilton 77

Specialists:

Shaun Suisham 87, Durant Brooks 78, Rock Cartwright (KR) 90, Antwaan Randle El (PR) 76

GTripp0012 09-27-2008 09:18 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Current largest weaknesses:

3rd WR, C, LDE (with Taylor out), 3rd CB, SS

vallin21 09-27-2008 09:50 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Alot of these ratings are low (portis 86?) are you making these ratings or are they on madden?

GMScud 09-27-2008 09:51 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Center looks ugly with both guys, according to this scale, "extremely cut-able."

I was a little surprised to see Pete Kendall with a higher rating than Randy Thomas.

Also a little surprised to see Andre Carter rated 6 points higher than Jason Taylor. According to this rating system, their ratings should be switched, with Carter as a very strong player, but Taylor the perennial pro-bowler.

I think Rocky McIntosh will be in the 90s before the season is over. He looks great right now.

vallin21 09-27-2008 09:55 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Moss might be a 94 before the season's over and Horton might be an 83

jamf 09-27-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Fletcher should be in the low to mid 90s. He is the heart and soul of the defense.
Springs should also be higher because he shut down bolden( Smoot gave up the TD).
Randle El is a good punt returner, he hasnt broken one so far this year but there is no way he is rated in the 70s.

Daseal 09-27-2008 11:11 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
[quote]Randle El is a good punt returner, he hasnt broken one so far this year but there is no way he is rated in the 70s.[/quote]
He's great, if you consider running laterally and backwards good. ARE has done nothing to gain field position for us.

Redskin Jim 09-27-2008 11:37 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
[quote=Daseal;481613]He's great, if you consider running laterally and backwards good. ARE has done nothing to gain field position for us.[/quote]
I'm with you on this one daseal. I've been waiting for ARE to brake one for a td for along time. Heck, i wish he would average 15 or more a return. It seems to me he was much more effective returning punts as a steeler.?

thomasfan31 09-27-2008 11:57 PM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
stupid

jsarno 09-28-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
[quote=GTripp0012;481591]

Quarterbacks:

Jason Campbell 86, Todd Collins 78, Colt Brennan 78[/quote]

Jason Campbell 88, Todd Collins 80, Colt Brennan 76 (or TBD)

[quote]Running Backs:

Clinton Portis 87, Ladell Betts 83, Rock Cartwright 79[/quote]

Clinton Portis 94, Ladell Betts 83, Rock Cartwright 71

[quote]Wide Receivers:

Santana Moss 90, Antwaan Randle El 86, James Thrash 78, Devin Thomas 75, Malcolm Kelly TBD[/quote]

Santana Moss 90, Antwaan Randle El 83, Devin Thomas 78, James Thrash 75, Malcolm Kelly 75 (or TBD)

[quote]Tight Ends:

Chris Cooley 92, Todd Yoder 76, Fred Davis 78[/quote]

Chris Cooley 94, Fred Davis 80, Todd Yoder 72

[quote]Offensive Tackle:

Chris Samuels 94, Stephon Heyer 81, Jon Jansen 81[/quote]

Chris Samuels 95, Stephon Heyer 85, Jon Jansen 80

[quote]Offensive Guard:

Pete Kendall 86, Randy Thomas 84, Jason Fabini 83, Chad Rinehart 78[/quote]

Randy Thomas 87, Pete Kendall 86, Jason Fabini 79, Chad Rinehart 72

[quote]Centers:

Casey Rabach 76, Justin Geisinger 75[/quote]

Casey Rabach 83, Justin Geisinger 71

[quote]Defensive Tackles:

Kedric Golston 86, Corneilius Griffin 85, Anthony Montgomery 82, Lorenzo Alexander 80[/quote]

Corneilius Griffin 88, Kedric Golston 86, Anthony Montgomery 84, Lorenzo Alexander 75

[quote]Defensive Ends:

Andre Carter 91, Jason Taylor 85, Demetric Evans 80, Erasmus James 79, Chris Wilson 79, Rob Jackson 76[/quote]

Jason Taylor 92, Andre Carter 91, Erasmus James 81, Chris Wilson 81, Demetric Evans 75, Rob Jackson 73

[quote]Linebackers:

Rocky McIntosh 86, London Fletcher 86, Marcus Wasington 83, H.B. Blades 83, Alfred Fincher 78, Khary Campbell 74[/quote]

London Fletcher 90, Marcus Washington 87, Rocky McIntosh 86, H.B. Blades 78, Khary Campbell 74, Alfred Fincher 73

[quote]Cornerbacks:

Carlos Rogers 91, Shawn Springs 86, Fred Smoot 79, Leigh Torrence 78, Justin Tryon 75[/quote]

Carlos Rogers 90, Shawn Springs 86, Fred Smoot 84, Leigh Torrence 75, Justin Tryon 71

[quote]Safeties:

LaRon Landry 93, Reed Doughty 81, Chris Horton 80, Kareem Moore 79, Justin Hamilton 77[/quote]

LaRon Landry 93, Chris Horton 84, Reed Doughty 80, Kareem Moore 75, Juston Hamilton 73

[quote]Specialists:

Shaun Suisham 87, Durant Brooks 78, Rock Cartwright (KR) 90, Antwaan Randle El (PR) 76[/quote]

Shaun Suisham 86, Durant Brooks 84, Rock Cartwright (KR) 84, Antwaan Randle El (PR) 77

Your list was pretty good, I had to tweek some, but I didn't want you to think I was taking a poo on your list. The above are just my opinions.

tdSKINS1 09-28-2008 02:01 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
shawn springs lower than carlos rodgers? and clinton only 86?

saden1 09-28-2008 05:54 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Carlos Rogers 91?

jamf 09-28-2008 06:11 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;481617]I'm with you on this one daseal. I've been waiting for ARE to brake one for a td for along time. Heck,[B] i wish he would average 15 or more a return.[/B] It seems to me he was much more effective returning punts as a steeler.?[/quote]

WOW!
The highest punt return average for a career is Devin Hester with 14.05 yards per return.
I think asking for 15 per is a bit high.

vallin21 09-28-2008 09:47 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Moss should be a little higher and Durant Brooks hasn't proven he's an 84 rating yet, but everything else that jsarno made I agree with

LMsexyAO 09-28-2008 11:47 AM

Re: Rating the players on the Redskins
 
Just curious, what do you think Sean Taylor would have been rated at the peak of his career? 94? Higher? Lower?


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