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Mattyk 10-10-2008 10:15 PM

McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRq6Y4NmB6U"]YouTube - McCain Tells Crowd Obama is Not Arab[/ame]

Just a bit ;), seriously though I'll give him credit he did the right thing here... scary that people like that woman are voting! :doh:

SmootSmack 10-10-2008 10:24 PM

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It's kind of sad that her saying he's an Arab came across like he's the Devil.

Good for him for taking the microphone away from her though

Mattyk 10-10-2008 10:28 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;488159]It's kind of sad that her saying he's an Arab came across like he's the Devil.

Good for him for taking the microphone away from her though[/quote]

That woman is so unbelievably ignorant it's sickening

12thMan 10-10-2008 11:17 PM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
Sorry, I give Mac no points for this. For the past week he and Palin have stoked and incited this hate and anger and fear. They've stood by idlly while their supporters have called Barack everything except his name...and now, as things appear to out of control at his rallies, McCain is suddenly standing up for Barack and calling him a "decent guy"?

12thMan 10-10-2008 11:23 PM

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By the way, what the heck is wrong with being Arab..and why is this hate so prevalent at Republican rallies? It's like it's some weird and perverted badge of honor to stick it in folks face and say, hey, you're not one of us, so you can't be trusted. I'm sick of it.

SmootSmack 10-10-2008 11:26 PM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[quote=12thMan;488180]Sorry, I give Mac no points for this. For the past week he and Palin have stoked and incited this hate and anger and fear. They've stood by idlly while their supporters have called Barack everything except his name...and now, as things appear to out of control at his rallies, McCain is suddenly standing up for Barack and calling him a "decent guy"?[/quote]

McCain has always called Obama a decent guy, and vice-versa. If you're referring to the whole Ayers situation, Palin handled it too aggressively in my opinion.

saden1 10-10-2008 11:27 PM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
This type of things has happened countless of times and this is the first time I have seen him defend Obama. Usually he smiles uncomfortably and that's all.

I agree with 12thMan but I'll give him props for doing more than simply smiling uncomfortably. In recent McCain/Palin rallies people screamed "terrorist" and "kill him" when Obama's name was mentioned and they referred to him using his middle name to "work the crowd" so I think overall McCain "sticking up" for Obama is "too little to late." Playing the good guy is not going to help McCain's defunct campaign.

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12thMan 10-10-2008 11:33 PM

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I think you guys are kind of missing my point here. I think McCain is a decent guy. What bothers me more than anything is the fact that these folks had the guts to ask McCain this one on one. It's the comfort level on the subject matter is what scares me.

SmootSmack 10-10-2008 11:47 PM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[quote=12thMan;488194]I think you guys are kind of missing my point here. I think McCain is a decent guy. What bothers me more than anything is the fact that these folks had the guts to ask McCain this one on one. It's the comfort level on the subject matter is what scares me.[/quote]

So are you saying McCain encouraged them to ask such questions?

SmootSmack 10-10-2008 11:58 PM

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These "voters" (I'm hoping they're not actually voters) are idiots. But MSNBC doesn't help matters by saying "McCain forced to defend." They make it sound like McCain really wanted to let it slide but some law said he had to defend Obama, not that he did it on his own.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjUeMqTKfwE]YouTube - McCain forced to defend Obama vs. hateful ignorant mob[/url]

As for that clip where he "did nothing" I'm going to guess that McCain didn't actually hear the guy scream "terrorist" I hardly heard it myself. But I suppose it's more exciting to suggest he encouraged the vitriol.

firstdown 10-11-2008 12:45 AM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[quote=12thMan;488181]By the way, what the heck is wrong with being Arab..and why is this hate so prevalent at Republican rallies? It's like it's some weird and perverted badge of honor to stick it in folks face and say, hey, you're not one of us, so you can't be trusted. I'm sick of it.[/quote]

OK, give us the proff that its so prevalent at Republican rallies.

firstdown 10-11-2008 12:48 AM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[quote=saden1;488184]This type of things has happened countless of times and this is the first time I have seen him defend Obama. Usually he smiles uncomfortably and that's all.

I agree with 12thMan but I'll give him props for doing more than simply smiling uncomfortably. In recent McCain/Palin rallies people screamed "terrorist" and "kill him" when Obama's name was mentioned and they referred to him using his middle name to "work the crowd" so I think overall McCain "sticking up" for Obama is "too little to late." Playing the good guy is not going to help McCain's defunct campaign.

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OK I need proff and not the same clip over and over again.

saden1 10-11-2008 02:39 AM

Re: McCain wins some respect from me on this:
 
[quote=SmootSmack;488207]These "voters" (I'm hoping they're not actually voters) are idiots. But MSNBC doesn't help matters by saying "McCain forced to defend." They make it sound like McCain really wanted to let it slide but some law said he had to defend Obama, not that he did it on his own.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjUeMqTKfwE"]YouTube - McCain forced to defend Obama vs. hateful ignorant mob[/URL]

As for that clip where he "did nothing" I'm going to guess that McCain didn't actually hear the guy scream "terrorist" I hardly heard it myself. But I suppose it's more exciting to suggest he encouraged the vitriol.[/quote]

Ultimately it is about the message and the tone of McCain's campaign that attracts these people to him. His campaign has stroked fear and this is the byproduct. Asking [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question"]leading questions[/URL] is a great way to get these fools minds wondering and as they say "you reap what you sow."

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Unfortunately:

[quote]You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.

-Abraham Lincoln[/quote]

saden1 10-11-2008 02:39 AM

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[quote=firstdown;488210]OK I need proff and not the same clip over and over again.[/quote]


Huh?

dmek25 10-11-2008 09:44 AM

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ill give the old man props. he could have stood by and done nothing. and some of those people are way out of control


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