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DynamiteRave 11-30-2008 04:19 PM

What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
I mentioned this in the game thread, but I feel it has to be something more than just the offensive line.

I mean we can't break big runs, we can't make deep passes, we can't protect the QB, we can't put points on the board, we can't even hold onto the ball

Is it the players? The coaches? Being too emotional? Maybe it all does come right back down to the offensive line?

What do you think? And how do you feel about the remainder of the season?

SFREDSKIN 11-30-2008 04:23 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
Lots of nagging injuries to key players.

Samuels knee

Portis knee, ribs, ankle

Carter foot

Fletcher foot

Washington ankle, shoulder

Golston foot

Taylor calf

Also not enough depth at LB, DE and age is catching up at OL and lack of experience at the WR position (we'll get better)

WaldSkins 11-30-2008 04:24 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
The offensive line, Suisham, the linebackers besides Fletcher, and no DT push into the face of the quarterback

skinsfan1987 11-30-2008 04:24 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
The bottom line is that the redskins don't match up well with physical teams like the giants, steelers, and cowboys. Lucky, we have a favorable schedule down the stretch, and we can easily finish 10-6 or 11-5 hopefully.

Hog1 11-30-2008 04:25 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
Defense strongpoint-solid. Weakpoint-cannot play effectively for 48 minutes a game.
Offense-no execution. run blocking, pass protection, route running, (how many times can you run a route 1 yard short of the first), KICKING!!!!

Solution-cut the Offense, and trade for 25 more D guys to play 60 minutes on D

DesertHog 11-30-2008 04:30 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
This might sound crazy but i think its Campbell. He can't convert on third down and can't score a touch downs.

mheisig 11-30-2008 04:30 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.

Smooter 11-30-2008 04:32 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=DesertHog;505734]This might sound crazy but i think its Campbell. He can't convert on third down and can't score a touch downs.[/quote]

Yeah that does sound crazy.

Hog1 11-30-2008 04:32 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=mheisig;505735]Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.[/quote]
Point well taken, BUT losing is one thing. Meltdown is another. TOOOOO many missed opp's. TOOOO many "dealbreakers", self-destruction.
Lack of execution

DynamiteRave 11-30-2008 04:33 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=mheisig;505735]Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.[/quote]

We've also played some of the worse teams, who we've barely squeaked by with a win, with the exception of a bad team that beat us. (Rams). Elite teams don't almost get beat by bad teams. Hell, average teams don't almost get beat by bad teams.

There's no reason that we struggled against an 0-12 team and lent a win to a 2-9 team. It makes no sense.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-30-2008 04:34 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=DesertHog;505734]This might sound crazy but i think its Campbell. He can't convert on third down and can't score a touch downs.[/quote]

I would agree with you, if Campbell were dropping balls. ARE, Thrash, and Kelly dropped 3 balls on 3rd downs - killing three drives.

Paintrain 11-30-2008 04:34 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=mheisig;505735]Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.[/quote]

Thank you! Please stop the madness of woe is us, why can't we always win, wah, wah, wah..

We played the best team in football today, we played the team that all of the 'experts' said was the best team in football 2 weeks ago, we played one of the best teams in the AFC right before that. If we lose next week then we would have lost to 4 of the top 6 teams in the NFL. There's no shame in that!! Of course we would have liked to have won all of those games but just because we didn't doesn't mean we suck and the season is over.

We're still in very good shape to make the playoffs which most people thought unimaginable before the season started.

The Goat 11-30-2008 04:35 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=Hog1;505730]Defense strongpoint-solid. Weakpoint-cannot play effectively for 48 minutes a game.
Offense-no execution. run blocking, pass protection, route running, (how many times can you run a route 1 yard short of the first), KICKING!!!!

Solution-cut the Offense, and trade for 25 more D guys to play 60 minutes on D[/quote]

That about sums it up.

I will say that dropped passes alone took us out of this game. Every WR dropped at least one save Thomas I believe. I saw the ball bounce off hands, chests, shoulder pads, and the face mask. Just doesn't look like an NFL caliber receiving corp, and I'm beginning to very seriously wonder if it's something in the coaching. Dropped passes lost us the playoff game last year IMHO and have always been way too common when we try to throw the ball regularly. We've seen it over and over w/ Moss, El, Thrash. But here's what gets me: Malcolm Kelly was very sure-handed in college and now he's got passes bouncing off his hands and his chest. Somehow it does not appear the guys are maintaining eye-hand coordination - something so fucking basic i really can't believe i'm typing it out but that's what i'm seeing on gameday...

Paintrain 11-30-2008 04:36 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;505738]We've also played some of the worse teams, who we've barely squeaked by with a win, with the exception of a bad team that beat us. (Rams). [b]Elite teams don't almost get beat by bad teams. Hell, average teams don't almost get beat by bad teams.[/b]

There's no reason that we struggled against an 0-12 team and lent a win to a 2-9 team. It makes no sense.[/quote]

The Giants lost to the Browns and squeaked by the Bengals in overtime. Your point is pointless.

A10sROCK 11-30-2008 04:36 PM

Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?
 
OL is average. Good DL either stop our running game or put lots of pressure on JC.

DL is below average. We put little pass rush on QB. Our outstanding DBs, including rookie Chris Horton make the DL look better.

ST are average or below. Kicking is very inconsistent. PR is really mediocre. KO returns don't scare anyone. Punting is ok for now.

We have a possible MVP RB with Clinton Portis. Jason Campbell is good but I wonder if he can win games alone [as the elite QB do] and I wonder if he will ever get to the next level. I want him to succeed but wonder if he can improve to the top level.

Our defense keeps the score down but doesn't get too many turnovers.

We're a good team. Probably will be 9-7 or 10-6. I don't think we will make the playoffs. We have fundamental OL / DL problems that will have to be addressed in the off-season.


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