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Counter-Tre 12-01-2008 03:17 PM

Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
I am putting together my Christmas list for Daniel Snyder and need to know what linemen to put on there.

T.O.Killa 12-01-2008 03:40 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
Haynesworth of the Titans, I think will be available.

Counter-Tre 12-01-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;506278]Haynesworth of the Titans, I think will be available.[/quote]
Would love to have him! I will put him on my wish list for The Danny.

GTripp0012 12-01-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
I hear Jason Taylor's going to be available. Maybe we should go after him?

Julius Peppers would be a fun upgrade to Carter, but we'd just try to bump Carter to the left side and be in the exact same situation we are now.

mlmpetert 12-01-2008 04:04 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
Shane Olivea might be worth a look, even now. Anyone know the extent of his back injury.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-01-2008 04:07 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;506291]I hear Jason Taylor's going to be available. Maybe we should go after him?

Julius Peppers would be a fun upgrade to Carter, but we'd just try to bump Carter to the left side and be in the exact same situation we are now.[/quote]

I thought Peppers played RDE. At least I remember him schooling Jansen a few years back. He's certainly got the size to play both positions.

skinsfan69 12-01-2008 04:10 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
I think we need to draft some o-linemen. Even though we can't get any pressure on the qb the defense isn't the problem with this team. We need a RT ASAP.

GTripp0012 12-01-2008 04:13 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;506296]I thought Peppers played RDE. At least I remember him schooling Jansen a few years back. He's certainly got the size to play both positions.[/quote]Carolina moves him all over the place. The way Evans has played though, I don't think we have a hole at LDE if we can get him resigned. Andre Carter though is a no doubt above average defensive end against both the run and the pass. So if we signed Peppers, it would be to replace Evans in the lineup, and though they are the same age, it would just be the same type of mistake we make year after year if Peppers disappoints.

We clog the LDE position, probably overpay for the guy, and then the sack production still doesn't significantly improve. Because the problem is interior DL/scheme related (in the sense that pre-snap reads are effective against us, so QBs can get the ball out under pressure).

I think the fact that Jason Taylor hasn't improved our sack rate, and has actually forced Carter's sack production to decline is about as solid as evidence gets that personnel at end is not the reason why we can't sack QBs.

T.O.Killa 12-01-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
Does anyone know what happened to Heyer being our next RT. They loved him, he got hurt and Jansen did well. Now Jansen is doing worst than ever why have'nt we put him back in?

EternalEnigma21 12-01-2008 04:24 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;506301]Carolina moves him all over the place. The way Evans has played though, I don't think we have a hole at LDE if we can get him resigned. Andre Carter though is a no doubt above average defensive end against both the run and the pass. So if we signed Peppers, it would be to replace Evans in the lineup, and though they are the same age, it would just be the same type of mistake we make year after year if Peppers disappoints.

We clog the LDE position, probably overpay for the guy, and then the sack production still doesn't significantly improve. Because the problem is interior DL/scheme related (in the sense that pre-snap reads are effective against us, so QBs can get the ball out under pressure).

I think the fact that Jason Taylor hasn't improved our sack rate, and has actually forced Carter's sack production to decline is about as solid as evidence gets that personnel at end is not the reason why we can't sack QBs.[/quote]


I completely agree... and after watching Montgomery absolutely throw a few guys around on some plays I have to say I see why everyone says he has the strength to be an elite DL... and it baffles me why they can't get production of him. He's a monster... but none of our guys are achieving their potential inside that line. Griffin is usually pretty stout, but he's not what he was 2 years ago and there's really no one else that can cause enough commotion up the middle. Our ends are rushing and the QB has all kinds of room to step up into the pocked because its completely vacant in the middle.

WaldSkins 12-01-2008 07:03 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2008 Team Signed Team
OT NR Jordan Gross UFA 6 6-5/300 Utah Carolina
OT NR Marvel Smith UFA 9 6-5/321 Arizona State Pittsburgh
OT NR Mark Tauscher UFA 9 6-4/315 Wisconsin Green Bay
OT NR Jon Runyan UFA 13 6-7/330 Michigan Philadelphia
OT NR Tra Thomas UFA 11 6-7/335 Florida State Philadelphia
OT NR Willie Colon UFA 3 6-3/315 Hofstra Pittsburgh
OT NR Khalif Barnes UFA 4 6-5/325 Washington Jacksonville
OT NR Marc Colombo UFA 7 6-8/320 Boston College Dallas
OT NR Vernon Carey UFA 5 6-4/333 Miami (FL) Miami
OT NR Max Starks UFA 5 6-7/337 Florida Pittsburgh
OT NR Charles Spencer RFA 3 6-4/337 Pittsburgh Jacksonville
OT NR George Foster UFA 6 6-5/332 Georgia Detroit
OT NR Oliver Ross UFA 10 6-4/327 Iowa State New England
OT NR Anthony Davis UFA 5 6-4/329 Virginia Tech Tampa Bay
OT NR Brandon Gorin UFA 7 6-6/308 Purdue St. Louis
OT NR Jon Stinchcomb UFA 6 6-5/315 Georgia New Orleans
OT NR Adam Goldberg UFA 5 6-7/318 Wyoming St. Louis
OT NR Wesley Britt RFA 3 6-8/312 Alabama New England

WaldSkins 12-01-2008 07:04 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
DT 1 Albert Haynesworth UFA 7 6-5/320 Tennessee Tennessee
DT 2 Rocky Bernard UFA 7 6-3/290 Texas A&M Seattle
DT 3 Jovan Haye UFA 4 6-2/295 Vanderbilt Tampa Bay
DT 4 John Thornton UFA 10 6-3/297 West Virginia Cincinnati
DT 5 Tank Johnson UFA 5 6-3/300 Washington Dallas
DT 6 Jonathan Babineaux UFA 4 6-2/286 Iowa Atlanta
DT 7 La'Roi Glover UFA 13 6-2/285 San Diego State St. Louis
DT 8 Larry Tripplett UFA 7 6-2/293 Washington Seattle
DT 9 Shaun Cody UFA 4 6-3/290 USC Detroit
DT 9 Kedric Golston RFA 3 6-4/292 Georgia Washington
DT 10 Darwin Walker UFA 9 6-3/294 Tennessee Carolina
DT 11 Mike Wright UFA 4 6-4/295 Cincinnati New England
DT 12 Colin Cole UFA 4 6-2/325 Iowa Green Bay
DT 13 Grady Jackson UFA 12 6-2/345 Atlanta

irish 12-01-2008 07:47 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
More hole plugging instead of building from the inside out. Until this changes it will be the same old Skins.

BrunellMVP? 12-01-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
Fill needs via the draft!

MrJL 12-01-2008 11:33 PM

Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?
 
[quote=BrunellMVP?;506355]Fill needs via the draft![/quote]


How many first round picks do you think we have. Neither one alone is the answer. That doesn't mean we should go looking for top players.

I just wonder about the uncapped year the next year.

How does that affect salary cap restructures? Can we bump guys like Marcus Washington's and Randel El's salary down and have it count less for 2009? If it came to it could they be cut and have the dead space they'd count the season after magically vanish because there's no cap in 2010?

Will we see guys sign a contract for 1.5 next year, 30 mil in 2010 and 2.5 in 2011?


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