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SmootSmack 12-07-2008 11:35 PM

Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[B]Offensive Line[/B]It doesn't even need to be said really, it's just sad what's happening with the line. Even Colt Brennan can't solve their problems.

[B]Misonceptions[/B]Just like it's a misconception that Springs misses several games every year, and it's a misconception that players who smile must mean they don't care, it's a misconception that I don't have high expectations of the team and I don't get frustrated. I'm also not going to be knee-jerk and simply say we suck and I can't believe we spent so much money on retreads and then use Andre Reed as an example. This is an average team with plenty of room to grow. It's as simple as that

[B]Fear[/B]I was impressed we had Kelly and Thomas in as our WRs on a key 3rd and 9. I want to see more of that, don't be afraid to put them in pressure situations. They are our future.

MTK 12-07-2008 11:37 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
Prepare for another week full of misconceptions, bench Campbell talk, fire Vinny talk, blah blah.

Ruhskins 12-07-2008 11:40 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;509060]Prepare for another week full of misconceptions, bench Campbell talk, fire Vinny talk, blah blah.[/quote]

We can still make it to the playoffs, blah blah blah. Let's start Colt, blah blah blah. Yup, losses will cause these posts.

jamf 12-07-2008 11:41 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
Defensive Line played as poorly as I have ever seen a line play. Linebackers are making too many tackles.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 12-07-2008 11:42 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
I just don't know what to do about the O-line...We can't replace them all at once, but they are all inconsistant and old. How does the situation with this team get better before it gets worse?

The Goat 12-07-2008 11:42 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
Matty I can't imagine anyone advocating JC to the bench after this game (although I know you're right, people will). Tonight, more than any game so far this season, highlighted just how awful the line is and how little Campbell has to work with. I counted three bad throws from him all game, and at least one was under tremendous pressure.

MTK 12-07-2008 11:43 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
I have to question Zorn's protection schemes more than anything, or a lack thereof. Plus, losing Samuels and Jansen doesn't help much either. Why isn't Fabini active?

The Goat 12-07-2008 11:46 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;509079]I have to question Zorn's protection schemes more than anything, or a lack thereof. Plus, losing Samuels and Jansen doesn't help much either. Why isn't Fabini active?[/quote]

Pretty sure Fabini went back to work full-time as a truck driver :silly:

The Goat 12-07-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
For that matter, where the f is Rhinehart? Wasn't he our 3rd round pick... and yet the guy evidently isn't good enough to dress? On 2nd thought I think I will start calling for Vinny's head once again. Go ahead, call it knee-jerk.

"Whatever, I'll do what I want."

Dirtbag59 12-07-2008 11:51 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=The Goat;509094]For that matter, where the f is Rhinehart? Wasn't he our 3rd round pick... and yet the guy evidently isn't good enough to dress? On 2nd thought I think I will start calling for Vinny's head once again. Go ahead, call it knee-jerk.

"Whatever, I'll do what I want."[/quote]

Just for the record how many guys are allowed to dress?

skinsfan69 12-08-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;509076]I just don't know what to do about the O-line...We can't replace them all at once, but they are all inconsistant and old. How does the situation with this team get better before it gets worse?[/quote]

Rabach and Jansen need to go ASAP. Heyer is just a back-up.

mooby 12-08-2008 12:07 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;509100]Just for the record how many guys are allowed to dress?[/quote]

I do believe the number is either 43 or 45, I'm not entirely sure though.

Either way this team has issues. I wish Zorn would just realize offense is nothing without an offensive line and either adjust his protection or make changes on the line. They aren't getting it done anymore and I'm tired of seeing Campbell get no time to throw. That tipped pass by Suggs at the beginning of the game set the tone for what was to come, and it ended up being costly as that was one of Reed's two picks.

I feel like the reason we can't be an aggresive offense is simply because our line isn't good enough to give Campbell enough time, we can't keep going 3 wide and just leaving 5 or 6 in to block because that's not good enough. And Campbell also has to do his part and recognize when the defense is overloading on one side, like on that Ray Lewis sack, and either counter it by getting the ball out quicker or adjusting the protection.

sportscurmudgeon 12-08-2008 12:09 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
Granted it was in garbage time when nothing mattered, but Malcom Kelly did extend his streak of games where a ball hits him in the hands and he drops it.

That's a positive thing to build on - - or not.


Someone asked where Rhinehart is/was. He was where he has been for most of the year and that is on the inactive list.


For all those folks who were sure that playing Heyer in place of Jansen would solve everything, please note that he was at RT and Samuels was at LT for about half of the game. No fireworks in that time that were noticeable...

The Goat 12-08-2008 12:21 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;509156]Granted it was in garbage time when nothing mattered, but Malcom Kelly did extend his streak of games where a ball hits him in the hands and he drops it.

That's a positive thing to build on - - or not.


[B]Someone asked where Rhinehart is/was. He was where he has been for most of the year and that is on the inactive list. [/B]


For all those folks who were sure that playing Heyer in place of Jansen would solve everything, please note that he was at RT and Samuels was at LT for about half of the game. No fireworks in that time that were noticeable...[/quote]

Yeah obviously he's inactive since we don't see him on the sideline yet his name still appears on the roster. The point is how can our only o-lineman in the draft not be worth the salt to get on the f'ing field? Most of us around here agree the FO has been utterly incompetent when it comes to playing football in the trenches, but where does it leave us when even the lineman we do go out and get mean nothing to team on gameday.

I've said it already on other threads and believe it now more than ever, the FO is more or less a joke. Too bad for the franchise and especially the fans that Danny is too insecure or whatever it is to do things the professional way rather than keep some idiot toady around - Vinny.

MTK 12-08-2008 12:24 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Ravens)
 
Rinehart was seen as a bit of a project coming out of school, he didn't play against top notch talent while at Northern Iowa.

[QUOTE]Pick Analysis: Rinehart was very impressive at the Senior Bowl and has good strength. He's able to pull and moves well for a guy his size. He may have potential to play tackle as well, but has not played against strong competition so he will need some time to develop. He gives the Redskins depth on the offensive line with a chance to grow into a starter.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/chad-rinehart?id=300]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - Chad Rinehart[/url][/QUOTE]

To me the bigger question is why isn't a solid veteran like Fabini active? I'd rather see him at RT than Heyer at this point.


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