Cerrato Vaguely Explains Draft Strategy (with Questionable Evidence)
 

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I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?

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I'm not willing to call the last draft a bust. I think we need to give the guys a chance. There is some talent there w/ Davis, Thomas, Kelly, and Rhinehart (Horton of course).

So the jury is still out on last years draft. I do have issues w/ past years decision making on VC's part.

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What Vinny says here is really really stupid. First he says not to draft for need, then he says we have the west coast offense and it NEEDS big wr's. So isn't it funny how we draft two big wr's in the 2nd round? Sorry Vinny but we drafted for need. He is one dumb dude who would never have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for Snyder. You see when Marty fired him no came knocking on his door. But with that being said, I think he deserves two more years of running things by himself. Everyone wants to blame him for all of the past moves, but some of that falls on Gibbs.

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Freaking Larry Michael, Right, right, right, Vinny! You are so true! Get someone in there to ask the tought questions.

What about D lineman? Why Fred Davis?

Ask the tough questions. This isn't the first draft Cerrato has screwed up.

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[quote=JLW428;512653]I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?[/quote]

I'm saying he is an idiot because he says "we don't draft based on need"

Then justifies his stupidity with made up stats.

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[quote=skinsfan69;512655]What Vinny says here is really really stupid. First he says not to draft for need, then he says we have the west coast offense and it NEEDS big wr's. So isn't it funny how we draft two big wr's in the 2nd round? Sorry Vinny but we drafted for need. He is one dumb dude who would never have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for Snyder. You see when Marty fired him no came knocking on his door. But with that being said, I think he deserves two more years of running things by himself. Everyone wants to blame him for all of the past moves,[B] but some of that falls on Gibbs[/B].[/quote]

Totally agree with that.... he was given full control the last 4 years.

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Depressing draft note #357. Harry Douglas, the wide receiver that Atlanta drafted with the 3rd round pick they got in the trade with the Redskins (picks 21 and 84 for picks 34 and 48), has more receptions and yards than all three of the Skins 2nd rounders combined.

I know at least one coach that should be looking for work in the off-season. Stan Hixon.

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[quote=JLW428;512653]I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?[/quote]

He's an idiot because he says you have to draft by best player available and tries to prove his point by dumping on Campbell and Merling stats while the guys he drafted in the second round have added jack shit to this team.

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Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

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[quote=Otis Wonsley;512672]Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.[/quote]

Welcome!

and I agree completely!

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[quote=Otis Wonsley;512672]Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.[/quote]

I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.

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[quote=celts32;512679]I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.[/quote]

I think that I would be fine with that. Maybe I am way off here but if all things point to this aspect being the problem, I wonder if Snyder at some point makes the change. Regardless of his loyalty to Vinny, I think he gets tired of this and goes in a different direction. I mean he has tried everything else under the sun.

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Vinny needs to go...he's a yes man and he's not proven to consistently draft well (in past few years) beyond lottery picks- don't toss out 2 names in the last 5 years as proof (even a broken clock is right twice a day...)

Bottom line, we are not a GOOD drafting team- this needs to change.

Oh, and bring in a GM

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At least he is good at drafting safeties.
Taylor
Landry
Horton
Doughty

no real busts there... or could that be coaching????