Portis Injuries
 

I know Portis got pretty banged up this season. But, in the last 4-5 games it seemed like he was getting hurt almost every time he carried the ball.

My questions are:

1)what is the seriousness of the injuries
2)how do you feel about his health going into next season?
3)what's our plan if his injuries continue to hinder?

Found this interesting: notice how his injuries went from mostly soft tissue prior to 07 to more serious joint and tendon starting from 07 to the present.

Is he breaking down? You decide
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/5937/injuries.html]SI.com - NFL - Clinton*Portis Injuries[/url]

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Off the top of my head, he had an MCL sprain, sprained neck, bruised ribs, sprained ankle, bruised hand, a hip flexor strain... I'm sure there's more.

Good news is it's nothing some rest can't cure, and nothing requires any offseason surgery.

As far as next season, we have to find a complimentary back able to give us 10+ quality carries a game. We've got to keep Portis fresh. He played at a high level in the first half of the season, but we pounded him too hard, and as his bumbs and bruises mounted, his production went down. Of course Samuels' injury didn't help either.

Is Ladell Betts that compliment to CP? One of two things are happening with Betts - he either A) isn't good enough to get enough carries to sufficiently keep CP fresh, or B) the coaches are just dead set on feeding Portis over and over until his wheels prematurely fall off, so to speak.

I'm the captain of the Darren Sproles fan club.

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[quote=GMScud;518230]Off the top of my head, he had an MCL sprain, sprained neck, bruised ribs, sprained ankle, bruised hand, a hip flexor strain... I'm sure there's more.

Good news is it's nothing some rest can't cure, and nothing requires any offseason surgery.

As far as next season, we have to find a complimentary back able to give us 10+ quality carries a game. We've got to keep Portis fresh. He played at a high level in the first half of the season, but we pounded him too hard, and as his bumbs and bruises mounted, his production went down. Of course Samuels' injury didn't help either.

Is Ladell Betts that compliment to CP? One of two things are happening with Betts - he either A) isn't good enough to get enough carries to sufficiently keep CP fresh, or B) the coaches are just dead set on feeding Portis over and over until his wheels prematurely fall off, so to speak.

I'm the captain of the Darren Sproles fan club.[/quote]
I must be the co-captain of the Sproles fan club. I don't think Betts is what this team needs as a compliment to Portis, he's the same type of back. He's not going to break many (any) long runs, he's got ok but not elite hands, he's got ok speed and doesn't do anything special. We need someone in the vein of Sproles or Leon Washington to spell Portis and have that explosive potential, not a plodder who needs 15 carries a game to be effective.

Portis is an elite back-when healthy-but his history has shown that as the season goes, so does his health. He's a warrior to play thru some of those injuries but we've got ourselves fooled into thinking he's a 'big back' or a 'pound the rock back' as some call him. He was a speed back when we got him, we've made him into a hammer (to the detriment of his health) and it takes it's toll.

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Portis is on the down side, we need a young RB to start carrying most of the load. Give CP 15 carries a game.

Betts looked pretty good in 06 not sure why he doesn't get more touches.... he seems to be a better pass catcher than CP too.

I think Snyder is in the tank for CP and makes sure he stays happy.

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[quote=Paintrain;518236]I must be the co-captain of the Sproles fan club. I don't think Betts is what this team needs as a compliment to Portis, he's the same type of back. He's not going to break many (any) long runs, he's got ok but not elite hands, he's got ok speed and doesn't do anything special. We need someone in the vein of Sproles or Leon Washington to spell Portis and have that explosive potential, not a plodder who needs 15 carries a game to be effective.

Portis is an elite back-when healthy-but his history has shown that as the season goes, so does his health. He's a warrior to play thru some of those injuries but we've got ourselves fooled into thinking he's a 'big back' or a 'pound the rock back' as some call him. [B]He was a speed back when we got him, we've made him into a hammer (to the detriment of his health) and it takes it's toll.[/B][/quote]


yes.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;518237]Portis is on the down side, we need a young RB to start carrying most of the load. Give CP 15 carries a game.

Betts looked pretty good in 06 not sure why he doesn't get more touches.... he seems to be a better pass catcher than CP too.

[B]I think Snyder is in the tank for CP and makes sure he stays happy[/B].[/quote]

Yup, as evidenced by the $20M in guarantees CP received before the start of this past season. For that kind of money, I don't see CP becoming the secondary RB to anyone anytime soon. IMO he should still be our primary ball carrier, but limit him to 20 touches and make sure we have a speedy change of pace back also getting significant work.

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I agree with a Sproles type back 100% As stated earlier, his quikness serves as a change of pace that can help facilitate in the breakdown of the Defrensive timing as well as preserve Portis' longevity and effectiveness.

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CP's injuries were nothing that would require surgery, so that's a good thing I guess. I love CP but Zorn would be wise to commit to a true two back approach next year to keep him fresh.

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[quote=GMScud;518230]Off the top of my head, he had an MCL sprain, sprained neck, bruised ribs, sprained ankle, bruised hand, a hip flexor strain... I'm sure there's more.

Good news is it's nothing some rest can't cure, and nothing requires any offseason surgery.

As far as next season, [B]we have to find a complimentary back able to give us 10+ quality carries a game[/B]. We've got to keep Portis fresh. He played at a high level in the first half of the season, but we pounded him too hard, and as his bumbs and bruises mounted, his production went down. Of course Samuels' injury didn't help either.

Is Ladell Betts that compliment to CP? One of two things are happening with Betts - he either A) isn't good enough to get enough carries to sufficiently keep CP fresh, or B) the coaches are just dead set on feeding Portis over and over until his wheels prematurely fall off, so to speak.

I'm the captain of the Darren Sproles fan club.[/quote]

I fully agree with this.

There's no reason we can find a quick change of pace back in the vein of a Jerious Norwood. We shouldn't need any FA help at RB.

Portis should benefit and if we solidify our OL in the offseason we could enhance the output of any lower grade RB's selected in the draft.

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CP is tough. But how long can he take it. I liked that kid Mason in the preseason. Quick and could move east and west when needed. What about Rock? When will he get some rep's?

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Betts is a fumbler, but we can't get rid of him because we would loose too much money in dead cap.

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[quote=Mattyk72;518244]CP's injuries were nothing that would require surgery, so that's a good thing I guess. I love CP but Zorn would be wise to commit to a true two back approach next year to keep him fresh.[/quote]

What are your thoughts on Laurence Maroney...just out of curiosity

For that matter, Edge

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[quote=Mattyk72;518244]CP's injuries were nothing that would require surgery, so that's a good thing I guess. I love CP but Zorn would be wise to commit to a true two back approach next year to keep him fresh.[/quote]

This might explain some things. Like why we ran him in the ground and why we didn't see more of Betts

[url]Http://www.examiner.com/r-4893935~Clinton_Portis_and_the_Quest_for_1_500_Yards.HTML[/url]

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Well when you carry it more times than anybody in the league... hes only a year behind LT... hes getting older... Thats all.
Thats why i was thinking draft a 3rd down change of pace back or maybe Sproles... Betts style of running is a watered down version of CP. Although im not a Betts hater.

He was getting hurt every play it seemed to me too... i knew why though... all those minor injuries are tough... ive played thru some in a couple different sports in HS. They hamper... and each one was bothered situationally for CP as he tried to play with them.

We just cant run him as often as we did this year and get away with it. Hes gonna need A LITTLE HELP... Zorns just make sure we have the right guy in situationally. Because CPs too good to be on the bench during impact situations.
STILL Portis is one of the greats today...and a great Skin. Period.
Hes not a concern to me at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;518330]What are your thoughts on Laurence Maroney...just out of curiosity

For that matter, Edge[/quote]
love Maroney! is he not nicked or something?
Edge......don't ask him to block