Cerrato wants more draft picks
 

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Vinny wants more than 4 picks. He also wants youth and depth. Sounds good to me.

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Good to hear that, I wonder if they will shopping their #13th pick (I'm sure they could get 2 or 3 picks out of it). I guess the other option would be trading someone? I would say Moss or Rogers.

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Vinny wants more than 4 picks. He also wants youth and depth. Sounds good to me.[/quote]

Let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is. Frankly I don't like the idea of a "GM" spouting off about his offseason wants/plans. If he's for real, good. But don't advertise it.

Funny quote from Vinny: "What you want to do, you want to keep building with young guys, so then you can continue to grow for a long time, not just sign a band-aid, make the playoffs for one year...." Umm, Jason Taylor anyone? Shut up VC.

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[quote=GMScud;522646]Let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is. Frankly I don't like the idea of a "GM" spouting off about his offseason wants/plans. If he's for real, good. But don't advertise it.

Funny quote from Vinny: "What you want to do, you want to keep building with young guys, so then you can continue to grow for a long time, not just sign a band-aid, make the playoffs for one year...." Umm, Jason Taylor anyone? Shut up VC.[/quote]

Yup, the pessimistic/hatred train is always on time.

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[quote=Ruhskins;522643]Good to hear that, I wonder if they will shopping their #13th pick (I'm sure they could get 2 or 3 picks out of it). I guess the other option would be trading someone? I would say Moss or Rogers.[/quote]

I don't think we will trade Moss. I like what he said about doing what fans have been wanting to see for years. I also like what he said about the importance of building a foundation of youth.

It certainly sounds like a shift in phylosopy in the right direction.

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[quote=44ever;522648]I don't think we will trade Moss. I like what he said about doing what fans have been wanting to see for years. I also like what he said about the importance of building a foundation of youth.

It certainly sounds like a shift in phylosopy in the right direction.[/quote]

Agreed, they will probably get more picks by trading down that #13. I think they can get a quality o-lineman late in the first round.

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[quote=GMScud;522646]Let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is. Frankly I don't like the idea of a "GM" spouting off about his offseason wants/plans. If he's for real, good. But don't advertise it.

Funny quote from Vinny: "What you want to do, you want to keep building with young guys, so then you can continue to grow for a long time, not just sign a band-aid, make the playoffs for one year...." Umm, Jason Taylor anyone? Shut up VC.[/quote]

I don't think he was advertising more than making a statement to the fans and what the future plans of the Skins will be. He didn't give up any specifics as to who he's going after or what positions he feels the need to fill.

In his last statement a few weeks ago he stated not seeing any glaring needs so I think he's keeping it cool while saying we hear you and we know.

He's done a good job of keeping his mouth shut. IMO

But like you said GMScud let's hope it's for real.

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[quote=Ruhskins;522647]Yup, the pessimistic/hatred train is always on time.[/quote]

When he gives me consistent, concrete reasons to be optimistic, I'll be a VC fan. Until then, blah.

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[quote=44ever;522650][B]I don't think he was advertising more than making a statement to the fans and what the future plans of the Skins will be. He didn't give up any specifics as to who he's going after or what positions he feels the need to fill. [/B]

[B]In his last statement a few weeks ago he stated not seeing any glaring needs so I think he's keeping it cool while saying we hear you and we know.[/B]

He's done a good job of keeping his mouth shut. IMO

But like you said GMScud let's hope it's for real.[/quote]

Good points, you're probably right. It's not like he's notorious for running his mouth. I don't know, I just have close to zero faith in the man as far as personnel.

Forgive me if I spit a little a venom in his direction.

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[quote=GMScud;522652]Good points, you're probably right. It's not like he's notorious for running his mouth. I don't know, I just have close to zero faith in the man as far as personnel.

Forgive me if I spit a little a venom in his direction.[/quote]

Hey, you have every right too Brother. I'm just reporting the news:)

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I like alot of what he said, but I did not like the fact that he mentioned everyone, but Rhinehart.

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Vinny wants more than 4 picks. He also wants youth and depth. Sounds good to me.[/quote]

Muhahahahah, yes it always sounds good, untill those draft picks become Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas, and Justin Tryon. Jury's still out on all of them of course but right now my confidence in Vinny with more picks is very low. However if those picks become offensive and defensive lineman I will tip my hat to the man. Still though I would rather have him try to find a good player with an easier pick then trying to find value at the expense of our lines and such with later picks before the 5th round.

Either way if you held a gun to my head and said guess which positions the Redskins are going to draft with their first three picks (weather they be the 1,3, and 5 or whatever they turn into on draft day) I would guess we end up with a running back, outside linebacker, and cornerback followed by the same spiel of best player available. Really hope I get proved wrong.

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[quote=Ruhskins;522647]Yup, the pessimistic/hatred train is always on time.[/quote]


is it pessimistic or realistic? honestly, isn't he just callin'em as he see'em?
A ball is a ball is a ball. VC can talk about wanting to get younger (especially on the lines) but we haven't seen it materialize.

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Well shoot, I've been telling you all for weeks that was their goal this year-to get more picks. But him saying they'd like to trade down, when recently he said they wouldn't look to trade down is Vinny a) just covering his bases and not showing his hand, b) having changed his mind, or c) having decided against, for whatever reason, using Rogers and or Moss as trade bait.

Or it could be both-trade down and trade Rogers/Moss

It's fine that he says he wants more picks, but at what cost? Will he trade picks from 2010 and then say the same thing next January? And you also have to ask yourselves, well maybe next year is the better year to have draft picks anyway. If there's no CBA agreement a lot of guys who would otherwise be free agents won't be; and we've already seen a lot of good players opt to stay in college one more year. So there's a lot to consider.

And I would argue that we do have depth and we do have youth in many areas of the team. But the problem is we have a lot of late round players (Blades, Golston, Montgomery, Heyer, Alexander, Tryon, etc) who in many cases are probably destined to just be solid depth. But we're stuck putting them in starting roles when they're not really ready or probably even suited for it. Every team needs guys like that to lean on, but not to carry them. What we need are young stars, not young depth.

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Guys really... we've had one season where we know for sure that Vinny is calling the shots, or at least is calling the good majority. Last year's draft class needs another year or two before we can really judge it, and this year call me crazy but I think we'll see a commitment to getting some lineman in here.