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The Goat 02-22-2009 05:19 PM

Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/around_the_nfl/post/Taylor-to-return-to-Washington;_ylt=AovDxki_OCfSNHDCKAS0O_VDubYF?urn=nfl,143118]Taylor to return to Washington - Around the NFL - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Worst FO move of the early off-season IMHO, not just our FO but for all 32 franchises...

Oh well, here's hoping Jason Taylor has the best season of his career at age 34.

44ever 02-22-2009 05:23 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=The Goat;528881][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/around_the_nfl/post/Taylor-to-return-to-Washington;_ylt=AovDxki_OCfSNHDCKAS0O_VDubYF?urn=nfl,143118]Taylor to return to Washington - Around the NFL - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Worst FO move of the early off-season IMHO, not just our FO but for all 32 franchises...

Oh well, here's hoping Jason Taylor has the best season of his career at age 34.[/quote]

Nice scoop Goat. Im actually happy to hear it. Maybe we should play him and keep him primarily right defensive end since thats his home. And hope he goes out like a mad dog. I think he will.

The Goat 02-22-2009 05:27 PM

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[quote=44ever;528882]Nice scoop Goat. Im actually happy to hear it. Maybe we should play him and keep him primarily right defensive end since thats his home. And hope he goes out like a mad dog. I think he will.[/quote]

[I]If[/I] we keep him at RDE then yeah this could work well. But what the hell do we do w/ Carter then? He's just not big and physical enough to play LDE... Evans is the better option there. My fear is Taylor moves in the WLB spot and we're going to see our defense fall-off significantly this season.

Damnit!!! I hope Danny and Vinny know what they're doing but this looks an awful lot like saving face rather than finding a player who fits our system for a reasonable salary.

DirtyLandry 02-22-2009 05:29 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
I'm not ready to write this guy off yet. As I said in another thread, he suffered a life threatening injury and was asked to play out of position (while injured). Let's see what he can do when healthy...It's not like we have any other options of a replacement outside of the draft. Teams are locking up their blue chip defensive linemen and with good reason.

44ever 02-22-2009 05:32 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=The Goat;528883][I]If[/I] we keep him at RDE then yeah this could work well. [B]But what the hell do we do w/ Carter then[/B]? He's just not big and physical enough to play LDE... Evans is the better option there. My fear is Taylor moves in the WLB spot and we're going to see our defense fall-off significantly this season.

Damnit!!! I hope Danny and Vinny know what they're doing but this looks an awful lot like saving face rather than finding a player who fits our system for a reasonable salary.[/quote]

I think they want their moneys worth. And if JT is looking to break into acting he know he needs lots of exposure. And one way to get it is making the highlights. As far as Carter, that is a question better suited for SmootSmack as I honestly dont know. What I do know is if we want "Jason Taylor" we better let him play his position or he means nothing.

The Goat 02-22-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=DirtyLandry;528884]I'm not ready to write this guy off yet. As I said in another thread, he suffered a life threatening injury and was asked to play out of position (while injured). Let's see what he can do when healthy...It's not like we have any other options of a replacement outside of the draft. Teams are locking up their blue chip defensive linemen and with good reason.[/quote]

What is he replacing though (is the $8 million question)? We just extended AC who is really only suited to play RDE... Carter was an OLB earlier in his career and was ineffective and has openly said he doesn't like playing there. I think we should all be able to agree at least that Taylor is a very poor fit at LDE because he's not a run-stopper so he's not "replacing" anyone there. And there's not a lot of evidence that he'll make a great WLB when we could 1) sign a value FA like Boley to step in or 2) draft a promising OLB in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round. I say w/ sincerity i hope i'm wrong, i hope JT proves me wrong and i'll eat crow happily, but this just looks like a poor decision. Don't even get me started on the fact that not even restructuring him severely limits what we can do to help the team in FA now. :soapbox:

PennSkinsFan 02-22-2009 05:38 PM

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I would love to scream, holler, and yell, but I am becoming numb to incompetent moves like this. Taylor has done absolutely nothing to deserve this. He cant stop the run, he failed to apply pressure, and all without a restructure. I would love to say this move stuns me stuns me, but given this front office, ummm, nope, not at all. A prime example of why the Redskins are the way they are the past ten years.

The Goat 02-22-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=44ever;528885]I think they want their moneys worth. And if JT is looking to break into acting he know he needs lots of exposure. And one way to get it is making the highlights. [B]As far as Carter, that is a question better suited for SmootSmack as I honestly dont know.[/B] What I do know is if we want "Jason Taylor" we better let him play his position or he means nothing.[/quote]

I highly anticipate hearing the rationalizations for this move...

MTK 02-22-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
I don't like it but worst move of the entire offseason? That's being a bit dramatic.

DirtyLandry 02-22-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that he was seriously injured?? Think about the calf muscle and how vital it would be to a defensive end. He's still only a couple seasons removed from being the NFL Defensive MVP. I'm not saying he's worth 8M, but we don't have any other options right now. If you think a guy like Boley would solve our run-D woes, your sadly mistaken.

44ever 02-22-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=The Goat;528888]I highly anticipate hearing the rationalizations for this move...[/quote]

They may be in talks with a OLB or LDE who knows.

JT will stop the run this season as well as get sacks if he is allowed to play his position. Thats almost for sure. I wish I was more of an expert on which players are versitile to play alternate positions but Im not. I really am looking forward to Smoots Input on this.

There has to be a way to make this work. I hope.

The Goat 02-22-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=Mattyk72;528889]I don't like it but worst move of the entire offseason? That's being a bit dramatic.[/quote]

I said the early off-season Matty... again I would like nothing better than to start a thread 10 mo from now titled "I was totally wrong when..."

MTK 02-22-2009 05:53 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=The Goat;528893]I said the early off-season Matty... again I would like nothing better than to start a thread 10 mo from now titled "I was totally wrong when..."[/quote]

Regardless, I would still give the worst move to the Bungals for franchising their kicker. There are probably others too that one is just off the top of my head.

DirtyLandry 02-22-2009 05:55 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
If you guys had to keep one player- either Springs or Taylor with their current cap figures, which one would you keep and why?

44ever 02-22-2009 05:55 PM

Re: Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut
 
[quote=DirtyLandry;528890]Why is everyone ignoring the fact that he was seriously injured?? Think about the calf muscle and how vital it would be to a defensive end. He's still only a couple seasons removed from being the NFL Defensive MVP. I'm not saying he's worth 8M, but we don't have any other options right now. If you think a guy like Boley would solve our run-D woes, your sadly mistaken.[/quote]

I agree DL, If JT comes out 100% we could not have done better in the FA or the Draft. He should not have to restructure and Im glad he did'nt. I want a $8M JT type performance. Not a player with a restructured mentality. That would not test his character IMO.

I'm excited he's back. Dont hate me Goat ;)


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