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I just quickly read over the Pro-Day article on the NFL site. There was a Center from TCU that looks like a steal. Other teams were mentioned. The Panthers are at Arkansas's Pro-Day. I didn't hear about anything the Redskins though? Perhaps some you other guys know about what the FO is doing and who they're looking at?

What's your question exactly?

I was just wondering which school we we're at and who we were there to see? I'm trying to get an understanding of who we're looking at.

Isn't Alabama pro day today the 11th?

[quote=Redskin Warrior;536071]Isn't Alabama pro day today the 11th?[/quote]

Yep.

All I know is that that Oklahoma's Pro-Day is today and I didn't hear about us being there? With Duke Robinson and Phil Loadholt there I don't understand why we wouldn't be?

Is he is a "steal" today...some 7-8 weeks before the draft then he isn't really a steal.

I haven't really kept up yet.

I know for sure we went to Rashad Jennings pro day. And we talked to Maualauga, Matthews, Cushing, Oher, Beatty, Orakpo, A. Smith, Nic Harris, Patrick Chung, Cody Brown, and um one other person, Aaron Maybin maybe, at the combine and/or senior bowl?

I want loadholt, so the redskins better be there

One source told the Chicago Sun Times that Alabama OL Andre Smith was impressive in position drills at his Pro Day.
Despite negative reviews elsewhere, the source said he'd still be surprised if Smith fell out of the top ten picks. The source added that Smith was not winded after drills, despite a report that he looked overweight. Next time Smith runs his forty, he'd probably be better off leaving his shirt on. | 3/11/2009 4:12:00 PM
Source: Chicago Sun Times

Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post believes that Andre Smith may fall out of the top-ten picks in the draft following his tumultuous offseason.

It's worth noting that Smith measured 6'4/325 Wednesday -- the lightest he's been in three years -- but still only managed a 25" vertical. The leap helps measure athleticism and Smith probably doesn't have enough to stay at left tackle. He may not even go in the top 20 if teams think he's a guard.
Source: National Football Post

Alabama OL Andre Smith was "visibly overweight" at his Pro Day Wednesday, according to Profootballtalk.com.

Terms like "not overly impressive," "rough," and "he bombed" are being used to describe Smith's effort. Teams will go back to the tape to evaluate Smith's junior-year performance before risking a high pick on him.
Source: Profootballtalk.com

Here is a tentative list of all pro days

Abilene Christian March 13 Johnny Knox, Bernard Scott
Air Force March 16
Akron March 18
Alabama March 11 Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Rashad Johnson, Andre Smith, John Parker Wilson
Alabama State March 6
Alcorn State March 24 Lee Robinson
Angelo State March 3
Appalachian State March 24
Arizona March 14 Eben Britton, Mike Thomas
Arizona State March 20 Rudy Carpenter, Paul Fanaika, Troy Nolan, Morris Wooten
Arkansas March 10 Jonathan Luigs, Jose Valdez
Arkansas-Pine Bluff March 11
Arkansas State March 31 David Johnson
Auburn March 10 Tyronne Green, Sen'Derrick Marks, Jerraud Powers
Ball State March 26 Robert Brewster, Nate Davis
Baylor March 3 Dan ***, Jason Smith
Bethany (Kansas) March 11
Boise State March 17 Jeremy Childs, Ian Johnson
Boston College March 12 Kevin Akins, Ron Brace, B.J. Raji
Bowie State March 17
Bowling Green March 12
Brown March 11
BYU March 11 Travis Bright, Austin Collie, Ray Feinga
California March 18 Rulon Davis, Anthony Felder, Zack Follett, Alex Mack, Cameron Morrah, Worrell Williams
Carson-Newman March 10
Central Arkansas March 11 Marquez Branson, Nathan Brown
Central Florida March 26 Joe Burnett
Central Michigan March 16
Central Oklahoma March 10
Central Washington March 9 Jared Bronson, Mike Reilly
Cincinnati March 19 Connor Barwin, Trevor Canfield, Kevin Huber, Mike Mickens, DeAngelo Smith,
Brandon Underwood
Clark March 9
Clemson March 24 Chris Clemons, James Davis, Michael Hamlin, Cullen Harper, Aaron Kelly, Dorell Scott
Colgate March 3
Colorado March 9
Colorado State March 10 Gartrell Johnson, Kory Sperry
Connecticut March 25 William Beatty, Cody Brown, Donald Brown, Darius Butler
East Carolina March 26 Davon Drew, Khalif Mitchell
Eastern Kentucky March 24
Eastern Michigan March 16
Eastern Washington March 9
Florida March 15 Percy Harvin, Cornelius Ingram, Louis Murphy, Jason Watkins
Florida A&M March 19
Florida State March 16 Everette Brown, Graham Gano
Fort Valley State March 30
Fresno State March 11 Tom Brandstater, Bear Pascoe
Furman March 24 Joel Bell
Georgia March 19 Asher Allen, Dannell Ellerbe, Corvey Irvin, Mohamed Massaquoi, Knowshon Moreno,
Brannan Southerland, Matthew Stafford, Jarius Wynn
Georgia Southern March 3
Georgia Tech March 9 Andrew Gardner, Michael Johnson, Darryl Richard, Vance Walker,
Jahi Word-Daniels
Graceland (Iowa) March 5
Grand Valley State March 9
Hampton March 20 Chris Baker
Hawaii April 2 Jake Ingram, Ryan Mouton, David Veikune
Hofstra March 24
Howard March 10
Idaho March 12 Eddie Williams
Idaho State March 2
Illinois March 18 Vontae Davis, Will Davis, Xavier Fulton, Derek Walker
Indiana March 10 Andrew Means
Indiana (Penn.) March 3
Iowa March 23 Robert Bruggeman, Bradley Fletcher, Shonn Greene, Mitch King, Seth Olsen
Iowa State March 25
Jackson State March 25 Domonique Johnson
James Madison March 18
Kansas March 10
Kansas State March 12 Ian Campbell, Josh Freeman
Kent State March 12 Augustus Parrish
Kentucky March 11 Tim Masthay, Marcus McClinton, Myron Pryor
Louisiana-Lafayette March 17
Louisiana Tech March 18
Louisville March 26 Hunter Cantwell, Adrian Grady, Eric Wood
LSU March 16 Darry Beckwith, Demetrius Byrd, Marlon Favorite, Brett Helms, Tyson Jackson,
Ricky Jean-Francois, Herman Johnson, Quinn Johnson, Curtis Taylor
Maine March 26
Marshall March 20 Darius Passmore, C.J. Spillman
Maryland March 11 Kevin Barnes, Moise Fokou, Daniel Gronkowski, Darrius Heyward-Bey,
Jaime Thomas, Edwin Williams
Massachussets March 26
McNeese State March 10 Quinten Lawrence, Kyle Link
Miami (Florida) Feb. 27 Bruce Johnson
Miami (Ohio) March 20
Michigan March 13 Sean Griffin, Tim Jamison, Terrance Taylor, Morgan Trent
Michigan State March 18 Brian Hoyer, Javon Ringer, Otis Wiley
Mississippi March 26 Jason Cook, Peria Jerry, Maurice Miller, Michael Oher, Jamarca Sanford,
Mike Wallace
Mississippi State April 1 Derek Pegues
Missouri March 5, March 19 Chase Coffman, Chase Daniel, Evander Hood, Jeremy Maclin, William Moore,
Stryker Sulak
Missouri Western April 2
Montana March 9
Montana State March 11
Morgan State March 19
Murray State March 24
Navy March 11
Nebraska March 12 Cody Glenn, Marlon Lucky, Lydon Murtha, Zach Potter, Matt Slauson, Nate Swift
Nebraska-Omaha March 13
Nevada March 25 Josh Mauga, Marko Mitchell
New Hampshire March 19
New Mexico March 12 Glover Quin, DeAndre Wright
New Mexico State March 11 Chase Holbrook
Norfolk State March 20, March 27 Don Carey
North Carolina March 17 Brooks Foster, Hakeem Nicks, Richard Quinn, Garrett Reynolds, Brandon Tate
North Carolina-Central March 25
N.C. State March 18 Andre Brown, Anthony Hill
North Dakota State March 24
Northern Colorado March 10
Northern Illinois March 16 Larry English
Northwestern March 12 Tyrell Sutton
Northwest Missouri March 11
Ohio March 12
Ohio State March 13 Alex Boone, Marcus Freeman, Brian Hartline, Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, Brian Robiskie, Donald Washington, Chris Wells
Oklahoma March 10 Jon Cooper, Nic Harris, Lendy Holmes, Juaquin Iglesias, Manuel Johnson,
Phil Loadholt, Duke Robinson, Brandon Walker
Oklahoma State March 11 Matt Fodge, Brandon Pettigrew
Oregon March 12 Jairus Byrd, Patrick Chung, RaShon Harris, Jeremiah Johnson, Fenuki Tupou, Max Unger,
Jaison Williams
Oregon State March 13 Victor Butler, Brandon Hughes, Andy Levitre, Keenan Lewis, Sammie Stroughter
Penn State March 18 Deon Butler, Gerald Cadogan, Maurice Evans, Aaron Maybin, Jordan Norwood, Lydell Sargeant, A.Q. Shipley, Derrick Williams
Pittsburgh March 17 C.J. Davis, LeSean McCoy, Scott McKillop
Portland State March 11
Purdue March 13 Alex Magee, Greg Orton, Curtis Painter, Kory Sheets
Rice March 26 James Casey, Jarett Dillard
Richmond March 19 Lawrence Sidbury Jr.
Rutgers March 23 Kenny Britt, Courtney Greene, Tiquan Underwood
Samford March 12
San Diego State March 21
San Jose State March 20 Coye Francies, Jarron Gilbert, Christopher Owens, David Richmond
SMU April 2 Thomas Morstead
South Carolina March 18, March 25 Jasper Brinkley, Emanuel Cook, Jared Cook, Kenny McKinley, Jamon Meredith, Captain Munnerlyn
South Carolina State March 23
South Florida March 13 Taurus Johnson, Tyrone McKenzie
Southeastern Oklahoma March 9
Southern March 17
Southern Miss March 25 Ryan McKee, Gerald McRath, Shawn Nelson
Stanford March 19 Pannel Egboh, Alex Fletcher, Anthony Kimble, Wopamo Osaisai
SUNY-Albany March 5
TCU March 6 Stephen Hodge, Jason Phillips
Temple March 19 Terrance Knighton
Tennessee March 11 Robert Ayers, Demonte' Bolden, Britton Colquitt, Arian Foster, Ramon Foster, Anthony Parker
Tennessee State March 20 Cornelius Lewis, Javarris Williams
Texas March 25 Quan Cosby, Roy Miller, Chris Ogbonnaya, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Palmer
Texas A&M March 4 Michael Bennett, Justin Brantly, Mike Goodson, Stephen McGee
Texas State March 24
Texas Tech March 12 Michael Crabtree, Graham Harrell, Darcel McBath, Louis Vasquez, Brandon Williams
Toledo March 12
Towson March 10
Troy March 5 Sherrod Martin
Tulane March 20 Troy Kropog
Tulsa March 9 Brennan Marion
UCLA March 31 Kahlil Bell
UC Davis March 20
UNLV March 5
USC April 1 David Buehler, Brian Cushing McRath, Kevin Ellison, Cary Harris, Kaluka Maiava, Clay Matthews, Rey Maualuga, Fili Moala, Kyle Moore, Mark Sanchez, Patrick Turner
Utah March 9 Paul Kruger, Louie Sakoda, Sean Smith
Utah State March 6, March 27 Rob Myers
UTEP March 12 Robby Felix, Jose Martinez
Valdosta State March 2
Vanderbilt March 5 D.J. Moore
Virginia March 19 Eugene Monroe, Kevin Ogletree, Cedric Peerman, John Phillips, Clint Sintim
Virginia Tech March 19 Victor Harris, Orion Martin
Wake Forest March 23 Stanley Arnoux, Aaron Curry, Alphonso Smith, Sam Swank, Chip Vaughn
Washington March 10 Juan Garcia
Weber State March 10 Marcus Mailei
West Texas A&M March 11
West Virginia March 12 Greg Isdaner, Mortty Ivy, Pat White
Western Illinois March 3
Western Kentucky March 25
Western Michigan March 10 Louis Delmas
William & Mary March 23
Wisconsin March 4 Travis Beckum, Jonathan Casillas, P.J. Hill, Andy Kemp, DeAndre Levy,
Matt Shaughnessy, Kraig Urbik
Wyoming March 12

im no scout, but watching some film of Smith's pro day, i wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. looked like a fat, slow kid

[quote=dmek25;536203]im no scout, but watching some film of Smith's pro day, i wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. looked like a fat, slow kid[/quote]

With boobies.

angry, i take it you saw some of his workout?

[quote=dmek25;536207]angry, i take it you saw some of his workout?[/quote]

Only what NFL Network showed.

What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?

[quote=SmootSmack;536239]What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?[/quote]

Nope, you're judged on whether you show up to the combine where you don't plan to work out.

I understand that a player should be judged on how they play on the field, but come on, the combine IS a pretty big deal in a players process of being drafted into the NFL. We're talking about gaining or losing, MILLIONS of dollars. You can't get motivated for that? What else are you not going to take that seriously? There are a lot of judgements to be made for a young man after gaining millions of dollars. One would hope that his decision making improves in the future, and it may, then again, this could be a sign of trouble.

So he's a kid in his early 20's who made a mistake, albeit a big one, and he's "slacked off" in preparation for an opportunity only a fraction of 1% gets! This is what happens when you mix immaturity and talent into million dollar decisions! We have a vetteran officeive line that wont let an immature kid dick around...draft him...if he falls to the thrid! If we trade back and acquire a second rd'r then snatch him with either the either of the first two picks. Timing of drafting him will depend if there's a run on tackles in the first! Then lets pick an inpact LB or DE with the second and third, assuming we are able to trade back!

[quote=SmootSmack;536239]What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?[/quote]
as a rule i agree. but this was this kids big show, and he was really out of shape. the workout was like a job interview. would you show up for an interview in jeans, with P.B.R on your breath? we are talking about a big time investment here, worth millions. and he didnt see it as being that important

He said he looks up to Chris Samuels. Bring him in and let our vets tutor him. Samuels won't let him be lazy. Look at Heyer, not to say he was lazy, but he was a frumpy looking fat dude his rookie year. Last year, he still looked odd, but was alot more in shape.

SS did you ever find out if the skins were at OU's pro day? I don't see why they wouldn't, OU has lots of prospects to choose from

Smith is definitely raising questions about his viability as a top 10, or even, our pick at 13. But let's not get carried away about how fat he looks. If anything, what that says to me is that he's not very aware of how most everybody doesn't want to see his fat jiggling, but it doesn't mean he can't play LT!

[quote=SmootSmack;536239]What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?[/quote]

that's what's up

Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.

[quote=warriorzpath;536428][B]Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.[/B]

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.[/quote]

The first paragraph could easily be applied to Orakpo.

Does anyone have any info about if Jim Zorn is going to any college?

[quote=Trample the Elderly;536473]Does anyone have any info about if Jim Zorn is going to any college?[/quote]

No. He graduated from college years ago.

[quote=53Fan;536440]The first paragraph could easily be applied to Orakpo.[/quote]

Good insight IMO.

[quote=warriorzpath;536428]Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.[/quote]

Good point, just look at Vernon Davis (former Terp), had crazy combine numbers and the 49ers took him wayyy too high in the draft.

[quote=freddyg12;536350]Smith is definitely raising questions about his viability as a top 10, or even, our pick at 13. But let's not get carried away about how fat he looks. If anything, what that says to me is that he's not very aware of how most everybody doesn't want to see his fat jiggling, but it doesn't mean he can't play LT![/quote]

You are right about the fat. But don't forget that he missed his last college game because of disciplinary troubles. So he missed the bowl game, then the combine, then was unprepared for pro day...this is a bad run of events.

If he can't get his act together with millions on the line, what will he do with guaranteed money already in his pocket?

As for Skins attendance at pro days, my understanding is that scouts split up and cover at least most of them. Just because the presence of a big FO name is not reported at a pro day does not mean that two Redskins eyes are not there.

[quote=53Fan;536525]No. He graduated from college years ago.[/quote]

hah niceee

Does anyone know when Orakpo's Pro day is?

[quote=vallin21;536827]Does anyone know when Orakpo's Pro day is?[/quote]

I believe it's March 25th.

[quote=vallin21;536827]Does anyone know when Orakpo's Pro day is?[/quote]

March 25th.

Check out the Pro Day Schedules on Post #11

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/536195-post11.html[/url]

[quote=SmootSmack;536917]March 25th.

Check out the Pro Day Schedules on Post #11

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/536195-post11.html[/url][/quote]

Thanks SS

I just watched the LSU Pro-Day on NFL.com. Those guys looked good. I've heard that Tyson Jackson DE is being considered by the Skins awhile ago. Herman Johnson G dropped about 30lbs to 350 something. The one that I think that we might be able to get that I really like is Quinn Johnson FB.

We could use another FB. I don't understand, with Washington being a power running team, why we don't have a power runner? CP is a edge slasher. He can run up the middle but he just doesn't have the bulk to get three to four yards up the middle when they know it's coming?

Why do we not have a Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to punch it in. Everyone know that these guys are up the middle. The question is can you stop them? Why we don't have a Quinn Johnson blocking for big Mike or vice versa is beyond me.

[quote=SmootSmack;536037]What's your question exactly?[/quote]
Does he need one?

[quote=tryfuhl;538907]Does he need one?[/quote]

what?

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