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TheSmurfs22 04-14-2009 10:31 PM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
I would love for the Skins to take an Oher or Smith but I am preparing myself for Sanchez (grrrrr).

Lotus 04-14-2009 10:37 PM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;545878]This year's 3rd and 5th, next year's first, Randel-El, Betts, a plasma tv, and twelve buckets of vanilla ice cream.

No, honestly, I think we should try to move that 3rd rounder up to the second, IF someone like Alex Mack or Duke slid to where we could reasonably pull it off without having to give up too much. We need to figure out a way to get two starters out of this draft.[/quote]

Do you remember when the Danny made Mike Nolan change the defense because he doesn't "like vanilla"? What a horror. Anyhow, we have no vanilla ice cream to trade. :)

The story about the Danny and ice cream can be found in many links, including:
[url=http://larrybrownsports.com/football/daniel-snyder-does-not-like-vanilla-ice-cream-so-says-mike-nolan]Daniel Snyder Does Not Like Vanilla Ice Cream, So Says Mike Nolan | Larry Brown Sports[/url]

John Denny 04-18-2009 10:58 PM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
ESPN is reporting that the JAGS are close to signing Holt. I wonder how that will shake things up as far as tackles go in the upcoming draft. JAX signed William "Don't call me Tra" Thomas, which was a good signing in my opinion but could probably use another tackle. I think most of the experts had them picking a WR (maclin) and signing holt would give them some flexibility to use their top pick to address other needs.

Lotus 04-18-2009 11:52 PM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=John Denny;547128]ESPN is reporting that the JAGS are close to signing Holt. I wonder how that will shake things up as far as tackles go in the upcoming draft. JAX signed William "Don't call me Tra" Thomas, which was a good signing in my opinion but could probably use another tackle. I think most of the experts had them picking a WR (maclin) and signing holt would give them some flexibility to use their top pick to address other needs.[/quote]

Excellent question. Don't forget, though, that the Jags have no warm bodies at wideout. They could pick up Holt and still draft a WR.

AnimateYYZ 04-19-2009 12:10 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Lotus;547133]Excellent question. Don't forget, though, that the Jags have no warm bodies at wideout. They could pick up Holt and still draft a WR.[/quote]

Ya, with Matt Jones and Reggie Williams deciding to throw their NFL careers away, Jags are left with Troy Williamson and Dennis Northcut as their starting wideouts. Even with the signing of Holt, I look for them to draft another WR as well.

Paintrain 04-19-2009 01:56 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
I won't be pleased if we draft Oher but I don't think we're going to have that option. Now that Buffalo needs a LT, they are taking the 4th one at #11. J. Smith, Monroe and A. Smith will be gone in the 1st 6 picks and Oher will be gone at #11. We're looking at a trade down or Maualuga I'd bet.

skins89moss 04-19-2009 02:45 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;545734]Oher at #13. Perfect. It needs to happen. You can't overstate how important the O Line is, and a potential LT is a high 1st rounder.
But how about this, if Duke Robinson is sitting there in the middle of the second round, I think he is worth trading up for. Somewhere around #50, before Philly and Dallas, I'd HATE it if he wound up playing for either! Robinson is 1st round talent, a bad mf, and having him and Oher on the right side would instantly make our running game somewhat nasty. We need to get that young, serious OL talent in there while Joe Bugel is still here to teach them. Heck, trade up for Alex Mack, too, for all I care.[/quote]

It sounds nice but if we have to trade up what will it require us to give up. You know teams always know how desperate we are when it comes to trades. We always get taken advantage of cause we always itching to make a move.

GridIron26 04-19-2009 07:19 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Paintrain;547137]I won't be pleased if we draft Oher but I don't think we're going to have that option. [B]Now that Buffalo needs a LT, they are taking the 4th one at #11. J. Smith, Monroe and A. Smith will be gone in the 1st 6 picks and Oher will be gone at #11. We're looking at a trade down or Maualuga I'd bet.[/B][/quote]

U have got good point, I haven't thought of that.. If it happens, then I probably would try to trade down, but if I couldn't then draft Mack.. C is another position we need to upgrade - NTs are starting to to get bigger and athleticism.. It may would be a reach to draft Mack at that spot, but having Mack in our line will upgrade the O-line.. Which is why I will not think that drafting Mack is a reach.. Beside upgrading our O-line with C, it would be perfect chance for Heyer to show whether if he can be successful this season or not.. I believe Heyer would be successful, he's getting enriched with experiences.. Regardless, I still want us to draft an OT..

And I'm curious to see why you don't like Oher?

John Denny 04-19-2009 09:51 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Lotus;547133]Excellent question. Don't forget, though, that the Jags have no warm bodies at wideout. They could pick up Holt and still draft a WR.[/quote]

The Jags could always draft a WR in the 2nd round (Brandon Tate-NC or Robiskie's kid-Ohio St).
I do like the idea of trading back if Orakpo and the 4 tackles are gone. Then we could pick the best available between OLB, DE, and OL and possibly DB (smoot has been slipping and I wouldn't argue with selecting Malcolm Jenkins). We need at least two guys that can come in and play and I think one from each side of the ball is a good idea. And as far as discussing names, I'm not going to speculate. I'd simply go with the best available but I would trade back if at all possible.

Beemnseven 04-19-2009 09:59 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
The [URL="http://www.ourlads.com/2009nflmockdraft.cfm?MockDraftID=6"]mock draft[/URL] of Ourlads Scouting Services has Oher lasting until #16 to San Diego.

They have Washington taking Sanchez.

Paintrain 04-19-2009 10:02 AM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=GridIron26;547146]U have got good point, I haven't thought of that.. If it happens, then I probably would try to trade down, but if I couldn't then draft Mack.. C is another position we need to upgrade - NTs are starting to to get bigger and athleticism.. It may would be a reach to draft Mack at that spot, but having Mack in our line will upgrade the O-line.. Which is why I will not think that drafting Mack is a reach.. Beside upgrading our O-line with C, it would be perfect chance for Heyer to show whether if he can be successful this season or not.. I believe Heyer would be successful, he's getting enriched with experiences.. Regardless, I still want us to draft an OT..

And I'm curious to see why you don't like Oher?[/quote]

I've heard/read too much about his immaturity, that he's been babied/coddled thoughout his football life and there are some questions about how he'll respond to being 'pushed' by tough coaching. With Bugel and Zorn being the brutally honest type I am concerned that he may not have the mental toughness to thrive.

Coupling that with the fact that we are asking him to flip sides and his football intelligence has come into question just spells bust to me.

Decent analysis about the top 5 tackles in the draft, [url=http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/top5OT.htm]NFL Draft - NFL draft preview and analysis from Pro Football Weekly[/url].

SmootSmack 04-19-2009 03:26 PM

Re: Michael Oher remains the leader for the Redskins
 
[quote=Paintrain;547137]I won't be pleased if we draft Oher but I don't think we're going to have that option. Now that Buffalo needs a LT, they are taking the 4th one at #11. J. Smith, Monroe and A. Smith will be gone in the 1st 6 picks and Oher will be gone at #11. We're looking at a trade down or Maualuga I'd bet.[/quote]

I'd be surprised if the Bills take an OT at 11


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