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saden1 06-16-2009 09:42 AM

Iranian Election and Government Structure
 
They couldn't have rigged it for a modest win? Does it even matter who the president is seeing how their [URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8051750.stm"]government is structured[/URL]?

KLHJ2 06-16-2009 09:55 AM

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Not really. It would be like McCain and Obama being in office at the same time. One would handle domestic affairs and the other handles the Military and foreign policy. In the end the dipshit with the most power has the final say.

BleedBurgundy 06-16-2009 10:04 AM

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Ayatollah makes the rules. Ahmadinejad is the international face. Seriously, it's 2009 and there are still Theocracies. WTF?

12thMan 06-16-2009 10:20 AM

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Good link Saden.

I think it does matters. While MA doesn't wield all the power in Iran, he's the public face for sure. And right now most --if not all-- of the public's anger is directed at him. But you guys make a good point, that flow chart is seriously complicated.

RobH4413 06-16-2009 10:33 AM

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The president is pretty much a face and that is all... (also... all presidential candidates are pre-approved by the government anyways sooo yeah)

Whats interesting is that the people are getting fired up. If that seed is planted it can and will grow. The people of Iran want democracy (especially the growing younger population)... they really do. They just don't want it implanted by the US, and with good reason.

Ayatollah is the leader, and he will keep that theocracy going at pretty much all costs.

firstdown 06-16-2009 10:37 AM

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I just love how the news has covered the story. They first acted like how the election would be fair and all votes counted corectly. Then it was they are going to investigate the results and now they are going to do a recount. The whole time the media is all over themself ingnoring the fact that none of this is going to happen.

Schneed10 06-16-2009 10:46 AM

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It matters to Iranians because the President has the role of upholding their constitution which affects internal matters, but does it matter to the United States? Not really all that much. The Supreme Leader is in charge of all military decisions, so if Iran were to attack Israel or something that would be the Ayatollah's decision, not Ahmenijad's.

Ahmenijad is a public face and he goes out publicly threatening Israel, but in the end his opinion is only monitored to the extent that it reflects the opinion of the Ayatollah.

If the Ayatollah were the one coming out saying that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth, I'd be a lot more concerned.

firstdown 06-16-2009 11:02 AM

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[quote=RobH4413;563118]The president is pretty much a face and that is all... (also... all presidential candidates are pre-approved by the government anyways sooo yeah)

Whats interesting is that the people are getting fired up. If that seed is planted it can and will grow. The people of Iran want democracy (especially the growing younger population)... they really do. They just don't want it implanted by the US, and with good reason.

Ayatollah is the leader, and he will keep that theocracy going at pretty much all costs.[/quote]
How has the US ever tried to force democracy on Iran? Yes presidents have talked about a democracy in Iran but that as far as it ever has gone. You do know this was all brought about because of Obama's speech a couple of weeks back and now democracy will spread like wild fire and we will all live as one.

SmootSmack 06-16-2009 12:33 PM

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[quote=firstdown;563132]How has the US ever tried to force democracy on Iran? Yes presidents have talked about a democracy in Iran but that as far as it ever has gone. You do know this was all brought about because of Obama's speech a couple of weeks back and now democracy will spread like wild fire and we will all live as one.[/quote]

I think it's gone further than just talk

[url=http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/]Electronic Briefing Book: The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup[/url]

Trample the Elderly 06-16-2009 12:44 PM

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If I were the Israelis I'd attack now while they're at their weakest. After the attack I'd blame it all on Am-a-dick-jihad and the hardliners.

firstdown 06-16-2009 01:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;563149]I think it's gone further than just talk

[URL="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/"]Electronic Briefing Book: The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup[/URL][/quote]
I was thinking more of current stuff and how presidents have treated Iran.

saden1 06-16-2009 02:38 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;563153]If I were the Israelis I'd attack now while they're at their weakest. After the attack I'd blame it all on Am-a-dick-jihad and the hardliners.[/quote]


I sometimes wonder if you're a real person. Do you really exist or are you a character created by one of our members for their own musing?

SmootSmack 06-16-2009 02:51 PM

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[quote=firstdown;563157]I was thinking more of current stuff and how presidents have treated Iran.[/quote]

Sorry, your multiple use of the word ever had me thinking otherwise

firstdown 06-16-2009 02:54 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;563173]Sorry, your multiple use of the word ever had me thinking otherwise[/quote]
Well you of all people should know that my hands don't type what my brain is thinking.

SmootSmack 06-16-2009 03:21 PM

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[quote=firstdown;563174]Well you of all people should know that my hands don't type what my brain is thinking.[/quote]

Smart move! Your noted inability to consistently form coherent sentences makes you exempt from having to back up your claims. It's like claiming mental insanity


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