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firstdown 06-23-2009 11:20 AM

Obama Care
 
Well it seem's that ABC is in Obama's corner and they will not allow any opposing views to his Socialized health care. They are going to hand pick the audience (might as well say hand pick the questions) and it seems Obama is running ABC now as well. Am I living in China or Iran?

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/critics-attack-abc-news-refusing-air-opposing-ads-obamas-health-care-special/]Critics Attack ABC News for Refusing to Air Opposing Ads During Obama's Health Care Special - Political News - FOXNews.com[/url]

Trample the Elderly 06-23-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Obama Care
 
We do all we can. It seems like the majority of Americans are willing to go along with all of this. They just don't care. We get the government we deserve and Democracy is for the mob.

Trample the Elderly 06-23-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Obama Care
 
Oh, I was thinking! Look at the bright side. Obama Care will cure many Americans of "Affluent-encia".

saden1 06-23-2009 12:01 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
You're trying way too hard:
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/30236-dont-bust-an-obama-supporter.html#post563368[/url]

We love Lord Obama and your feeble attempts to knock him down only makes our love stronger.

firstdown 06-23-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=saden1;564167]You're trying way too hard:
[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/30236-dont-bust-an-obama-supporter.html#post563368[/URL]

We love Lord Obama and your feeble attempts to knock him down only makes our love stronger.[/quote]

Your love for Obama only makes you blind to the stupid crap he does every day.

BleedBurgundy 06-23-2009 12:30 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
I don't love anyone, but if the plan is good and the end result is positive, I don't really care about the means, be they heavy handed or not.

SmootSmack 06-23-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=saden1;564167]You're trying way too hard:
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/30236-dont-bust-an-obama-supporter.html#post563368[/url]

We love Lord Obama and your feeble attempts to knock him down only makes our love stronger.[/quote]

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firstdown 06-23-2009 01:42 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;564175]I don't love anyone, but if the plan is good and the end result is positive, [SIZE=4]I don't really care about the means[/SIZE], be they heavy handed or not.[/quote]
So if the goverment wants to raise your taxes 10 to 15% your fine with that. Massachusetts has mandated health insurance which started in 2006 at a cost of around 633 million and it now projected to cost around 950 million in 2009. Thats goverment at work for you.

GhettoDogAllStars 06-23-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=firstdown;564161]Well it seem's that ABC is in Obama's corner and they will not allow any opposing views to his Socialized health care. They are going to hand pick the audience (might as well say hand pick the questions) and it seems Obama is running ABC now as well. Am I living in China or Iran?

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/critics-attack-abc-news-refusing-air-opposing-ads-obamas-health-care-special/]Critics Attack ABC News for Refusing to Air Opposing Ads During Obama's Health Care Special - Political News - FOXNews.com[/url][/quote]

This kind of stuff isn't new -- it's been happening for a long time. Have you always been opposed to it, or just now that a Democrat is in office?

BleedBurgundy 06-23-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=firstdown;564201]So if the goverment wants to raise your taxes 10 to 15% your fine with that. Massachusetts has mandated health insurance which started in 2006 at a cost of around 633 million and it now projected to cost around 950 million in 2009. Thats goverment at work for you.[/quote]

First off, the question is do I think that universal healthcare is vitally important. The answer is yes. That being the case, am I willing to pay an increase in taxes for that benefit? Yes again. I am already paying a significant sum of money for things I would rather not, whether it's ridiculous research into [URL="http://www.ajc.com/health/content/health/stories/2009/03/23/alternative_medicine_federal_funds.html"]quack science[/URL] or funding poor lending practices, this is something that I feel is actually a basic, human rights/quality of life issue. You cannot be an advanced society when ANY percentage of your population are denied healthcare. Take a look at defense spending in the same period. I'd be interested to see how much of a difference there is in one as opposed to the other. Too many people get wrapped up in these emotional issues with ideas being labelled "democratic, republican or, oh my heavens, socialist." Sit back, take off your partisan hat and think about the most basic question: Should everyone, let alone every US Citizen, have access to quality healthcare?

firstdown 06-23-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;564204]This kind of stuff isn't new -- it's been happening for a long time. Have you always been opposed to it, or just now that a Democrat is in office?[/quote]

Please give me a time were a president made a national speach about passing something this big when the opposition was not allowed a rebuttal after the speech or town hall meeting. This is also the president who keeps saying he is so bipartisan in what he does.

BleedBurgundy 06-23-2009 02:31 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=firstdown;564201]So if the goverment wants to raise your taxes 10 to 15% your fine with that. Massachusetts has mandated health insurance which started in 2006 at a cost of around 633 million and it now projected to cost around 950 million in 2009. Thats goverment at work for you.[/quote]

You're going to get ****ed either way, man. Either it's uncle sam doing the thrusting or private corporations. At least public officials are somewhat accountable. Pure, unadulterated capitalism is NOT the answer to every question.

Trample the Elderly 06-23-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=firstdown;564201]So if the goverment wants to raise your taxes 10 to 15% your fine with that. Massachusetts has mandated health insurance which started in 2006 at a cost of around 633 million and it now projected to cost around 950 million in 2009. Thats goverment at work for you.[/quote]

What did I tell ya? These fools think health insurance is a human right. :bs:

firstdown 06-23-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;564210]First off, the question is do I think that universal healthcare is vitally important. The answer is yes. That being the case, am I willing to pay an increase in taxes for that, yes again. I am already paying a significant sum of money for things I would rather not, this is something that I feel is actually a basic, human rights/quality of life issue. You cannot be an advanced society when ANY percentage of your population are denied healthcare. Take a look at defense spending in the same period. I'd be interested to see how much of a difference there is in one as opposed to the other. Too many people get wrapped up in these emotional issues with ideas being labelled "democratic, republican or, oh my heavens, socialist." Sit back, take off your partisan hat and think about the most basic question: Should everyone, let alone every US Citizen, have access to quality healthcare?[/quote]
First off this coverage will go to anyone who is living in the US legal or not. Second there is not that many people denied health coverage or cannot afford health care to tear apart our health care system. Does it need some work. Yes but goverment is one of the biggest problems with health care coverage today. Goverment F*&$ up everything it touches, SS, Medicad, Medicare, heck even the post office is loosing money. I don't care who comes up with this bad plan I'm not for the goverments power grab of about 10% of the US economy.

saden1 06-23-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Obama Care
 
[quote=firstdown;564211]Please give me a time were a president made a national speach about passing something this big when the opposition was not allowed a rebuttal after the speech or town hall meeting. This is also the president who keeps saying he is so bipartisan in what he does.[/quote]

No one is stopping Fox News from having a rebuttal special...they should have a special, they are the "voice of opposition" after all. Oh wait, they have a special every night with special hosts and guests. Don't get mad, get glad.


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