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skinsfaninok 08-05-2009 05:21 PM

Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[url=http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-08-05/handicapping-wide-open-nfc-race]Handicapping wide-open NFC race - Mike Florio - NFL - Sporting News[/url].

GTripp0012 08-05-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
But...but, Mike Florio hates the Redskins.

an23dy 08-05-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
Wow, I've seen us ranked as low as 25 in power rankings. Wide spectrum there.

NYCskinfan82 08-05-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
I don't care what the so called experts think, this is my team and i beleive were going to be good this year damm it great this year.

Lotus 08-05-2009 05:58 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
Who kidnapped Florio and put an imposter in his place?

tootergray34 08-05-2009 07:39 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
not sure about 5, but If our Defense plays the way they are capable of I can easily see us winning 10 games this year, and I think that will get us in the playoffs. It all depends on our lackluster offense.

skinsfaninok 08-05-2009 08:39 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
I think we should win the east and I know you may think I'm crazy but our offense will be better and our d will be awesome ! So I say 11-5

Pocket$ $traight 08-05-2009 08:47 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
I think that if you look at the Redskins without bias, they are definitely a sleeper candidate. Every other team in the division took a step back.

The Giants are definitely going to miss Burress, Toomer and Ward. Burress is uncoverable, Toomer was Eli's security blanket and Ward was the definition of "change of pace back". Ward always dominated Washington.

The Eagles are a mess on defense and they were really hoping that their line would be able to use this time to gel. Well their line has more key guys banged up then ours and they have several new starters from last year.

Mark this down, the Cowboys offense absolutely will not be as explosive without Owens. They seem to think that they will be better from addition through subtraction. Well when that guy is arguably a top 5 talent at his postion, that is foolish. Roy Williams likes to drop the ball, Crayton likes to drop the ball and I don't know that Austin is ready to be a #2.

Washington made a very good to excellent defense into potentially an elite one. Our secondary is as good as any in the league (I still shake my head at what they would be doing if 21 was back there) and the line is basically disgusting. There are some question marks at LB but they have one of the best MLBs and enough talent for the others to do the job.

We are basically following the Ravens blueprint except I think we have much more talent then those Ravens offenses.

The key is if Bugel can somehow piece an average to above average unit with this group. If (and this is an enormous if) he does it, the sky is the limit.

CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009 08:58 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;572904]I think that if you look at the Redskins without bias, they are definitely a sleeper candidate. Every other team in the division took a step back.

They Giants are definitely going to miss Burress, Toomer and Ward. Burress is uncoverable, Toomer was Eli's security blanket and Ward was the definition of "change of pace back". Ward always dominated Washington.

The Eagles are a mess on defense and they were really hoping that their line would be able to use this time to gel. Well their line has more key guys banged up then ours and they have several new starters from last year.

Mark this down, the Cowboys offense absolutely will not be as explosive without Owens. They seem to think that they will be better from addition through subtraction. Well when that guy is arguably a top 5 talent at his postion, that is foolish. Roy Williams likes to drop the ball, Crayton likes to drop the ball and I don't know that Austin is ready to be a #2.

Washington made a very good to excellent defense into potentially an elite one. Our secondary is as good as any in the league (I still shake my head at what they would be doing if 21 was back there) and the line is basically disgusting. There are some question marks at LB but they have one of the best MLBs and enough talent for the others to do the job.

We are basically following the Ravens blueprint except I think we have much more talent then those Ravens offenses.

The key is if Bugel can somehow piece an average to above average unit with this group. If (and this is an enormous if) he does it, the sky is the limit.[/quote]

Pocket, I see the vodka made the kool-aid go down a lot easier
:food-smil

Pocket$ $traight 08-05-2009 09:00 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;572905]Pocket, I see the vodka made the kool-aid go down a lot easier
:food-smil[/quote]

It always does! We need Bugel to put forth his best effort ever, I think he is up to it! I still wish they would give him at least one more piece to work with...

CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009 09:23 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;572906]It always does! We need Bugel to put forth his best effort ever, I think he is up to it! I still wish they would give him at least one more piece to work with...[/quote]

Buges quote sounds like he would be at least letting Zorn know he needs a good backup for Samuels. We will see if that does any good. It's clear he's not pushing for more RT or guard help. And my understanding is that he is high on Rabach :confused:

Redskin Jim 08-05-2009 11:41 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;572904]I think that if you look at the Redskins without bias, they are definitely a sleeper candidate. Every other team in the division took a step back.

The Giants are definitely going to miss Burress, Toomer and Ward. Burress is uncoverable, Toomer was Eli's security blanket and Ward was the definition of "change of pace back". Ward always dominated Washington.

The Eagles are a mess on defense and they were really hoping that their line would be able to use this time to gel. Well their line has more key guys banged up then ours and they have several new starters from last year.

Mark this down, the Cowboys offense absolutely will not be as explosive without Owens. They seem to think that they will be better from addition through subtraction. Well when that guy is arguably a top 5 talent at his postion, that is foolish. Roy Williams likes to drop the ball, Crayton likes to drop the ball and I don't know that Austin is ready to be a #2.

Washington made a very good to excellent defense into potentially an elite one. Our secondary is as good as any in the league (I still shake my head at what they would be doing if 21 was back there) and the line is basically disgusting. There are some question marks at LB but they have one of the best MLBs and enough talent for the others to do the job.

[B]We are basically following the Ravens blueprint except I think we have much more talent then those Ravens offenses[/B].

The key is if Bugel can somehow piece an average to above average unit with this group. If (and this is an enormous if) he does it, the sky is the limit.[/quote]
God, I wish this was the truth.. Ozzie is following OUR role in the 80's lineman roles. (build from the treches out)
I do see what you are saying, but I would make a Pitt coralation over the ravens...
Anyway no offense, Go Skins!!

CultBrennan59 08-05-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
We can go as far as we want to, just as long as our OLine stays intact, and our Defense stays healthy/ no major injuries.

Pocket$ $traight 08-05-2009 11:56 PM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;572989]God, I wish this was the truth.. Ozzie is following OUR role in the 80's lineman roles. (build from the treches out)
I do see what you are saying, but I would make a Pitt coralation over the ravens...
Anyway no offense, Go Skins!![/quote]

I guess I picked the Ravens because in my opinion they won with a degree of luck which is what we would need. The Ravens offense was awful that year (ours was pretty bad in the second half of last year too). They went several weeks without scoring a touchdown. Now, on the flipside you could argue that they had the best defense ever (which definitely doesn't apply to us). Also, from an outsider's perspective, Ray Lewis literally willed that team to victory. I don't think we (or any team in the NFL) have anyone as motivated as him that year.

I think the Steelers offense is better than ours and the Championship Ravens version which was basically a young Jamal Lewis and Shannon Sharpe.

GTripp0012 08-06-2009 12:33 AM

Re: Looks like we are a sleeper in the NFC....
 
Not to mention that Bobby Hoying played 3 quarters of the AFC Championship game because Tony Siragusa sat on Rich Gannon...


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