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BIGREDSKINFAN63 10-01-2004 06:38 PM

williams fined for cheap shot on coles.
 
[b]according to espn news,cowboys cb roy williams was fined 7,500$$$ for his helmet to helmet hit on lavernaus coles monday night.in case everybody forgot,the referees missed it,and never threw a flag.in other news,comcast just announced that chad morton is out of sunday's game against clevland.ladell betts will return kickoffs,and james thrash will return punts.[/b]

MTK 10-01-2004 06:55 PM

Good, if LaVar gets fined for a facemask, Williams definitely deserves a fine for that shot. Should have been called, but oh well, sucks for us.

la73hof 10-01-2004 08:19 PM

[URL=http://jaybauer24.tripod.com/cowboysvids/Royhit.mpg]Roy Hit[/URL]

This is a bullshit fine...but at least Jeana Washington is[b] (sanitizied version of consistent)[/b]


If you play this frame by frame, one will notice that Roy's shoulder makes contact with Coles FIRST. Then Coles is launched backwards by the impact

Roy WAS NOT HEADHUNTING on the play...

Clean hit

EEich 10-01-2004 08:30 PM

Don't care if he was or wasn't headhunting or if his pads hit first. Helmet to helmet contact on a helpless receiver is illegal.

By the way... we don't need that kind of language here.
Climb back into your hole, please.


[QUOTE=la73hof][url="http://jaybauer24.tripod.com/cowboysvids/Royhit.mpg"]Roy Hit[/url]

This is a bullshit fine...but at least Jeana Washington is[b] (sanitizied version of consistent)[/b]

If you play this frame by frame, one will notice that Roy's shoulder makes contact with Coles FIRST. Then Coles is launched backwards by the impact

Roy WAS NOT HEADHUNTING on the play...

Clean hit[/QUOTE]

Brute44 10-01-2004 08:31 PM

Just another reason to say that those refs from MNF should be checked for favoritism or brain cells.

la73hof 10-01-2004 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=EEich]Don't care if he was or wasn't headhunting or if his pads hit first. Helmet to helmet contact on a helpless receiver is illegal.

By the way... we don't need that kind of language here.
Climb back into your hole, please.[/QUOTE]

All we've heard here (and to be expected) is the favorable calls the Skins got...BUT (Thanks to AdamJT13)

All of Washington's points came as a result of questionable calls. If Portis had been ruled down, they wouldn't have gotten a field goal. If Wiley hadn't been flagged for slapping Brunell's shoulder, they wouldn't have scored their first touchdown. And if Gardner had been flagged for pushing off Reeves to make his first long catch, they wouldn't have gotten their touchdown or two-point conversion. So even if they'd gotten the PI on Newman, they'd have scored three or maybe seven points total. And even if Glenn had been called for PI, the offsetting penalties would have left us with a third down at the Redskins' 41 -- still a potential drive for a field goal or touchdown. And regardless of any of that, we did have two touchdown drives completely unaided by questionable calls.

Bozzy 10-01-2004 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=EEich]Don't care if he was or wasn't headhunting or if his pads hit first. Helmet to helmet contact on a helpless receiver is illegal.

By the way... we don't need that kind of language here.
Climb back into your hole, please.[/QUOTE]

What language? :confused-

Winskins 10-01-2004 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=la73hof]All we've heard here (and to be expected) is the favorable calls the Skins got...BUT (Thanks to AdamJT13)

All of Washington's points came as a result of questionable calls. If Portis had been ruled down, they wouldn't have gotten a field goal. If Wiley hadn't been flagged for slapping Brunell's shoulder, they wouldn't have scored their first touchdown. And if Gardner had been flagged for pushing off Reeves to make his first long catch, they wouldn't have gotten their touchdown or two-point conversion. So even if they'd gotten the PI on Newman, they'd have scored three or maybe seven points total. And even if Glenn had been called for PI, the offsetting penalties would have left us with a third down at the Redskins' 41 -- still a potential drive for a field goal or touchdown. And regardless of any of that, we did have two touchdown drives completely unaided by questionable calls.[/QUOTE]

I think that if you're saying that the ref's were playing in the skins favor I would have to question exaclty what you were seeing. I think the skins got some awful breaks on a pass interference call and a non-pass interference call. That could have made 7 more points for the skins and 7 less points for the 'girls.

In regards to the Portis call I wrote this: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In reference to the Portis call, now correct me if i'm wrong, but it appeared that a person made contact with Portis and then after that person's contact with Portis ended (w/o his knee ever touching the ground) THEN Portis's knee touched the ground. Now, I thought that the rule was that a player's knee can touch the ground as long as no one touches him while his knee is on the ground.

So what exactly is the rule?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also, I think saying that without that roughing the passer call that we wouldn't have scored is ridiculous, because in a game plays like that are always going to happen and in that instance it did. The Redskins beat the 'girls everywhere except for on the scoreboard it seems.

:httr:

BTW, are you even a skins fan? (just curious)

la73hof 10-01-2004 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=Winskins]I think that if you're saying that the ref's were playing in the skins favor I would have to question exaclty what you were seeing. I think the skins got some awful breaks on a pass interference call and a non-pass interference call. That could have made 7 more points for the skins and 7 less points for the 'girls.

In regards to the Portis call I wrote this: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In reference to the Portis call, now correct me if i'm wrong, but it appeared that a person made contact with Portis and then after that person's contact with Portis ended (w/o his knee ever touching the ground) THEN Portis's knee touched the ground. Now, I thought that the rule was that a player's knee can touch the ground as long as no one touches him while his knee is on the ground.

So what exactly is the rule?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also, I think saying that without that roughing the passer call that we wouldn't have scored is ridiculous, because in a game plays like that are always going to happen and in that instance it did. The Redskins beat the 'girls everywhere except for on the scoreboard it seems.

:httr:

BTW, are you even a skins fan? (just curious)[/QUOTE]

la73= Larry Allen, number 73

HOF= Hall of Fame

Need I say more? ;)

Winskins 10-01-2004 09:29 PM

haha...shoulda known

:rolleyes:

saden1 10-01-2004 09:54 PM

Stop the whining and bitching people. Cowboys won, we lost. Lets move on and hopefully we won't get the shaft from the refs next time we play (don't even front about that shit either). See you Dec 26.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 10-01-2004 09:56 PM

to be fair,the skins got some shitty calls but the officatting sucked all away around.i hate dallas with a passion,but there were a few bad calls on them too.most of the cowboy fans that are my friends are good folks,of course you do run into the ocassional cowboy fan who is truly a legend in his own mind.

SmootSmack 10-01-2004 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=saden1]Stop the whining and bitching people. Cowboys won, we lost. Lets move on and hopefully we won't get the shaft from the refs next time we play (don't even front about that shit either). See you Dec 26.[/QUOTE]

Dec. 26? Where are you going? Def Poetry Jam World Tour?

saden1 10-01-2004 10:07 PM

I thought you were a skins fan smoot....Dec 26 is our 2nd game against the Boys.

Def Poetry is my kind a shit though.

Brute44 10-01-2004 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=la73hof]All we've heard here (and to be expected) is the favorable calls the Skins got...BUT (Thanks to AdamJT13)

All of Washington's points came as a result of questionable calls. If Portis had been ruled down, they wouldn't have gotten a field goal. If Wiley hadn't been flagged for slapping Brunell's shoulder, they wouldn't have scored their first touchdown. And if Gardner had been flagged for pushing off Reeves to make his first long catch, they wouldn't have gotten their touchdown or two-point conversion. So even if they'd gotten the PI on Newman, they'd have scored three or maybe seven points total. And even if Glenn had been called for PI, the offsetting penalties would have left us with a third down at the Redskins' 41 -- still a potential drive for a field goal or touchdown. And regardless of any of that, we did have two touchdown drives completely unaided by questionable calls.[/QUOTE]

I already knew you were a boys fan la73hof. So why are you here, to gloat about the game that you should have lost?


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